[NCUC-DISCUSS] Session on termination of domains for hate speech at ICANN 60

[Michael Oghia]

+1 Michael.

Might I suggest that those interested in speaking at the event as well as
those who want to host it create a draft agenda along with some proposed
aims and objectives?

Best,
-Michael

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Mike <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I feel very strongly that we shouldn't be self-censoring our topics for
> discussion based on the fact that the venue is Abu Dhabi. It's bad enough
> we are going to have members who cannot attend based on their activist
> backgrounds. If we approach this from the perspective of avoiding any
> discussion that might make waves, there's no point even showing up.
>
> I agree that this could be the topic for a wonderful discussion at
> Brazilian IGF, but I don't see the two conversations as being mutually
> exclusive, especially as many (most?) of us won't be at that meeting.
>
> I'll also add that I understand concerns raised earlier about normative
> statements but, from my perspective, this discussion would be less about
> establishing an official NCUC position and more about feeling the topic
> out. I wouldn't expect the discussion to end with any sort of "official"
> conclusion that Cloudflare was wrong (or right), but given that this is an
> issue with implications for ICANN going forward, it would be useful to come
> together and share some preliminary thoughts about future challenges. At
> least, that's how I see it. Let's have the conversation.
>
> Best,
>
> Michael
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 22, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Viviane Vinagre <vivianegvinagre at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> "I understand James's concern for scope, just like Bill I don't yet know
> what to think either, but it seems that Ayden's line that DNS, as a
> technical framework, "is being used to determine who can and cannot
> disseminate knowledge and opinions" is absolutely enough for us to put this
> discussion forward for the time being."
>
> I also agree with what Claudio said, I think the best option for us is
> doing a workshop and discuss that matter in the Brazillian IGF. And as
> Gustavo I think we would have a better civilized, productive debate, with
> both sides being represented in Brazil than in Abu Dhabi where the
> enviroment about freedom of expression isn't that good.
>
>
>
>
> 2017-08-21 17:13 GMT-03:00 Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org>:
>
>> On 20/8/17 12:37 pm, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>
>> I agree, let's not escalate things  ourselves.  I think the CEO of
>> Cloudfare has expressed it quite well: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/1
>> 7/cloudflare-ceo-says-removing-the-daily-stormer-is-slippery-slope.html.
>> I think we should have this discussion, am neutral as to the appropriate
>> setting.  I bet Michael Nelson from Cloudfare will be there, he would be
>> good to talk to as a discussant of the matter.
>>
>>
>> Also Namecheap, if you haven't seen this piece of theirs, especially the
>> addendum:
>>
>> https://blog.namecheap.com/inciting-violence-vs-freedom-speech/
>>
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