[NCUC-DISCUSS] [Important] NCUC Bylaws Final Version

[Karel Douglas]

"FREE and FAIR, and FREE from FEAR" this is why campaigning on election day
is a criminal offence in some countries simply because there is a need to
ensure a fair process and to allow the electors to vote without
intimidation by opponents at the polling station etc. This
is typically elections for the control of the government. and the stakes
are high. No alcohol is permitted to be sold and radio and TV stations are
prohibited from running election ads, the security services are on alert
etc etc

I don't see the same parallels in the case of the NCUC where these
dangers are not present and it is in effect an election amongst like -
minded members. I don't see the dangers of continuous campaigning which is
not unreasonable esp as one can change their vote.

regards

Karel DOUGLAS

On 22 November 2016 at 07:49, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Avri,
> At ISOC voting system, the vote right keeps changing until the last minute
> but the campaigning close the day before the ballots are distributed.
> It is important to have members visible during the year but I agree that
> in all organisations members become vocal during the election period.
> Best wishes,
> Nadira
>
> On 22 Nov 2016 12:05, "avri doria" <avri at acm.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think one of the things that contributes to the habit of continuous
> > campaigning is that one can change their vote right up until the last
> > minute by voting again.  I think this is a good thing and do not mind
> > the continuous campaigning.  It is the only time some of our members
> > become visible.
> >
> > avri
> >
> >
> >
> > On 21-Nov-16 11:30, matthew shears wrote:
> > > I agree with the suggestion by Nadira - and should as Tapani says be
> > > given serious consideration by the new EC.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 21/11/2016 15:59, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
> > >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 03:43:43PM +0200, Nadira Alaraj
> > >> (nadira.araj at gmail.com) wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Usually and in any voting process, the support or self promotion of
> > >>> candidates stops before the distribution of the ballots.
> > >> That is not by any means universal. In particular when voting is
> > >> conducted by mail or otherwise takes a long time, notably also during
> > >> postal or other advance voting in most elections I know of,
> > >> campaigning keeps going on all the way until voting stops.
> > >>
> > >> Whether or not that is a good thing is another question, and we might
> > >> well decide that campaigning should stop after voting starts in NCUC
> > >> elections. But so far we haven't had such a rule and it is obviously
> > >> too late to make one for this election.
> > >>
> > >> But good that you brought it up, the new EC would be well advised
> > >> to consider it and make the rules clear before next election.
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
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