[NCUC-DISCUSS] NomCom Review

[Raoul Plommer]

I think actual bribes like cash would be really quite rare, but business
interests are satisfied more easily than best interests of humanity. They
are collectives based on their business model, whereas we are working to
keep the internet free and equal. I think there's a fundamental difference
there and we mostly do our work for free, whereas they get paid by the hour.

-Raoul

On 25 November 2016 at 00:28, James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net> wrote:

> Do you believe that there are bribes being paid to nomcom members to vote
> for certain candidates then?
> B
> Because Im still trying to understand the statement "only a few
> constituencies can't be simply paid off.”
>
> -james
>
> From: Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday 24 November 2016 at 21:00
> To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net>
> Cc: NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>, Johan Helsingius <
> julf at julf.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NomCom Review
>
> No, I'm saying that it's a valid reason to ask for a bigger representation.
>
> On Nov 24, 2016 22:24, "James Gannon" <james at cyberinvasion.net> wrote:
>
>> And translating that into our current discussion, as I asked in my
>> previous question, does the then mean that you don’t feel our colleagues
>> across the GNSO are motivated by anything other than profit, that there is
>> no common ground for us to find, or that we cannot support them or they
>> cannot support us on issues of ‘decency and humanity’?
>>
>>
>> -J
>>
>> From: Ncuc-discuss <ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> on behalf of
>> Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com>
>> Date: Thursday 24 November 2016 at 20:20
>> To: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com>
>> Cc: NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NomCom Review
>>
>> I'm not saying that businesses and humanity couldn't be combined or that
>> businesses aren't able to do the right thing, every now and then, but when
>> it comes to making a choice between the two, businesses will choose profit.
>> I don't see any around that.
>>
>> -Raoul
>>
>> On 24 November 2016 at 21:55, Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 24-11-16 20:12, Raoul Plommer wrote:
>>> > Our motivation is to keep internet humane and decent. Others' is to
>>> make
>>> > as much money off it, as possible. While it might be a binary way of
>>> > looking at things, it's a very clear line to me.
>>>
>>> Raoul,
>>>
>>> I am pretty sure you are familiar with my past history. :)
>>>
>>> I have spent a heck of a lot of time fighting to make the
>>> internet not so much a humane and decent but free and equal place,
>>> while at the same time making money off (or through) it. The
>>> same goes for some of my friends who founded EFF.
>>>
>>>         Julf
>>>
>>>
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