[NCUC-DISCUSS] Does ICANN really foster collaboration?

[Ayden Férdeline]

Hi Zakir,

I am not sure that is the case. I am aware of other forums which do not
dial out to embargoed countries and I am not certain that the Adobe Connect
team would facilitate this. However, I would like to know if ICANN staff
are able to make phone calls to Sudan. This is an issue worth
investigating.

Ayden

On Wednesday, 4 May 2016, Zakir Syed <zakirbinrehman at yahoo.com> wrote:

> They can. A dial-out can always be requested to get an incoming call and
> join a meeting.
>
> Best,
> Zakir
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> I am curious as to whether ICANN staff can dial you into the audio bridge
> or not, so there is no financial outlay required on your part to
> participate in phone calls. I don't know the answer here, but you do flag
> an interesting situation. Being headquartered in the United States ICANN
> and its suppliers have an obligation to comply with US trade embargoes,
> but it sounds like this is inadvertently limiting participation.
>
> Ayden
>
> On Wednesday, 4 May 2016, Hiba Eltigani <higba6 at gmail.com
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> Hello Ayden
>      Thanks for swift reply. The issue is related to sanctions because the
> tool is accessible using VPNs and tunnels. I haven't come across the audio
> bridge option in the events i tried to connect remotely to but there was a
> dial-in option using international calls.
> BR
> On May 4, 2016 11:35 AM, "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Hiba,
>
> Thanks for flagging this issue. Why are you unable to access Adobe Connect
> in Sudan? What happens when you try to access the platform? Is this because
> Adobe can not export products to Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Syria, and
> other countries where the United States embargoes goods? Are you still able
> to participate in working groups via the audio bridge?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden Férdeline
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 11:29 AM, Hiba Eltigani higba6 at gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello NCUC
>     Referring to the last communication about the new chat tool, i want to
> raise questions about whether ICANN is really fostering collaboration or
> advocating for equal access.
> I come from Sudan and you all know about the US sanctions issue which is
> political thing and may be nothing can be done about it in this context.
> But i think the least that can be done is to insure that users who have
> equal right to access and participate in ICANN events as part of the
> brodaer community.
>       Curently “Adobe connect” can't be accessed in Sudan and this means
> eliminating a whole community from having their voice heard. Given that,
> talks about access seems very theoretical. I don't think it is hard for an
> organization works in the heart of the Internet to find/ put alternatives
> tools that work for everyone.
> Sorry if this is not the right place to raise these concerns but i am just
> speaking for Internet users in Sudan.
> BR
> Hiba
>
>
> Ayden Férdeline
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