[NCUC-DISCUSS] ICANN Mentor Pilot Programme Application

Mon Feb 1 16:51:31 CET 2016

Hi Glen and all,

Isn't " the occasional ambitious individuals"  enough for us? As a
fellowship alumni who has benefitted from the program and has more exposure
to the program I can give you a couple of answers.

First, the fellowship program had a survey and here is the result. It's
about the fellows view of the program and how active they are.
 https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/fellowship-alumni-survey-results-28may15-en.pdf
<https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/fellowship-alumni-survey-results-28may15-en.pdf>

Second, I spot at least two very active members who were a part of the
fellowship program in NCUC. That's not enough of course but again it does
show that the efforts don't go wasted.

Third, the pareto rule 20/80 applies to the fellowship program as well.

Fourth, NCUC has also benefited from Next Gen (some of our members were a
part of that program and are active)

Fifth, it is upto us to talk to the fellows and get them active. Rafik has
done a great job by getting in touch with them and we still do.

I think these programs are much more effective than just receiving travel
support .

Best

Farzaneh

On 1 February 2016 at 16:29, Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> thanks Glen, these are great questions!
> steph
>
>
> On 2016-02-01 15:55, Glenn McKnight wrote:
>
> Observations
> ICANN has been operating a  Fellowship, NEXT GEN and now a pilot
> Mentorship program and the numbers are reaching close to 1,000 and I have
> created a spreadsheet of all of the participants in the fellowship
> The fellowship has incorporated  a sort of  mentorship in the  evidence of
>  various repeat participants.  These participants are functionaries in the
> process I assume similar to Mentors. In addition  ALAC  at  ATLAS ll event
> a pilot program had a mentor/mentee program as well
>
> All of these efforts although  noble in intent have not been able to
> generate community volunteers except for the occasional ambitious
> individuals
>
> This new  mentorship iniatiative is similar to the model created for  ARIN
> and other RIR which match an existing active advisor with an incoming
>  mentee and they shadow this person
>
> Also we have  IETF and the ISOC Ambassors program.
>
> Benefits
> For all this  effort do we really know the benefits to the various ICANN
> communities and the individuals?
> Have we done any pre and post surveys?
> Do we have motivational stories of inspiration?
>
> Not sure
> Glenn
>
>
>
>
>
> Glenn McKnight
> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
> skype  gmcknight
> twitter gmcknight
> .
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Stephanie Perrin <
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree with your concerns and suggestions.  I have attended several
>> meetings of the ICANN academy but almost never hear anything between
>> sessions...possibly my fault, but I thought I had signed up on all relevant
>> lists.  Anyway I would like to know how this program meshes with the
>> academy efforts, as well.
>> cheers Stephanie
>>
>>
>> On 2016-02-01 9:53, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> thanks for your interests for this program and feedback.
>>
>> While the mentorship program is good idea in principle, I have some
>> reservations on how this program is designed and controlled  by ICANN
>> staff. the requirements put some burden on the mentor-mentee and try to
>> formalize several aspects of what should be mainly a trusted relationship
>> between 2 persons.
>>
>> I do think that mentorship should be flexible and it is up to the
>> mentor-mentee to agree in the rules and expectations. on other hand, I
>> agree with with Avri about the expectation of providing report and lesson
>> learned to share best practices with others in NCUC. For info, we were
>> informed and got the request to give names quite late. it was even late
>>  with regard to the timeline setup by DPRD. I asked for some clarification,
>> more details about the program and that we should get involved to give
>> feedback. it is a pilot project for Marrakech meeting and we will see how
>> it will evolves. to be followed closely. My understanding is that the
>> program is not aimed to replace or to compete with the existing fellowship
>> and nextgen program but is supposedly aimed toward ICANN constituencies.
>>
>> I support that we explore the idea suggested by Avri to have our own
>> independant mentorship program for NCUC and see how we can fund and setup
>> it. Such internal program is definitely not aimed to replace the pilot
>> project but complement it. it can be part of a capacity building efforts
>> for membership to expand our pool of volunteers. As reminder we have also
>> the NCUC Membership Affairs Team which we are trying to reactivate and
>> investigate how we can engage our members better.
>>
>> I would like also to clarify some points:
>> - Regarding the information about policy work, we are trying to do most
>> of the work at NCSG level and we can still discuss that at NCUC level. most
>> of the policy work is done by NCUC members e.g. public comments,
>> participating in working groups etc. so the challenge is to avoid
>> duplication. for example, we can make statement to support NCSG comments
>> and put additional point of views in some cases
>> - the welcoming message from NCSG includes a lot of information (I
>> drafted that message when I was NCSG chair ;)) . This mentioned page
>> <https://links.mixmax.com/b/BOOJTNsRwguFW8xMT?rn=&re=IyZy9mLjV3Yu5yc0NXasB0czV3YzlGZtMWdj5mI> (which
>> is included in the welcoming message) was drafted by me and used
>> extensively existing pages made by Avri. one of the projects we have in
>> NCUC is to create a NCUC newcomer handbook following the example of IETF
>> Tao <https://www.ietf.org/tao.html>. please stay tuned for this one.
>> There are also several scattered GNSO material and links e.g
>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/pdp-updates>
>> http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/pdp-updates that we will try to compile
>> in single place. anyway point taken about adding more info to the NCUC
>> welcoming message.
>> - we got the mentorship skype channel setup. maybe we can to explore
>> other channels such whatsapp etc while being mindful about the level of
>> efforts and adoption by members. I acknowledge that the learning curve can
>> take some time but I think that we learn by practicing and asking
>> questions.  We will try to facilitate and be a broker for matching
>> mentor-mentee pair and see how it will works.
>> For those interested, I am reiterating my offer of informal chat or skype
>> discussion to give more information and respond to your questions, also
>> happy to do mentorship too.
>>
>> hope that helps.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
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