[NCUC-DISCUSS] [NCUC-EC] Replacement on Cross Community WorkingGroup on Internet Governance

[Remmy Nweke]

Hi all
I strongly support the positions of Wolfgang and William and even more
supportive of Ed's school of thought for a rejig of the entire
representation since it has been a while but the importance of ICANN
presence in IG sector cannot be over emphasised.

@Bill, many thanks for this expose, it has to do with a progressive mind.

Remmy Nweke

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On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 4:33 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <
wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I did not participate in this CCWG. But when I was in the Board we had
> various discussions how the involvement of ICANN in broader IG issues
> should be designed in the future (in particular after the IANA transition).
> There are two schools of thought: One (the isolationsists) which argue that
> ICANN should more or less ignore what happens ourtside the I* world. The
> other group argues (and I was part of this group) that there is a need that
> ICANN remains involved in IGF, WGEC, WSIS (and even in Wuzhen, FII, NMI,
> GIGC, GCSC, GFCE etc.). Broader Internet Governance is and can not be
> ICANNs core business and there is a risk of mission creep. But ignorance
> and isolation can fire back and ICANN can find itself in an unfriendly
> environment which could make the daily operations of its core business more
> complicated if processes start in bodies (like UNCSTD or Wuzehn or The
> Hague) and Trigger develoopments in wrong directions. If ICANN is not
> present and can not raise the voice, this can happen. Sometimes such
> processes are difficult to stop. I called the needed ICANN involvement in
> broader IG issues as an investment into the protection of ICANNs
> environment. I do also not buy SDB´s argument that ICANNs engagement in the
> NetMundial was a mistake. Insofar I propose to continue with this CCWG. The
> ICANN Board needs good advice from the community and a CCWG approach is a
> good approach to trigger bottom up developments of reasonable positions.
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
>
>   etc.+ bve very<  s a
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Ncuc-discuss im Auftrag von William Drake
> Gesendet: So 10.04.2016 16:55
> An: NCUC-discuss
> Betreff: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] [NCUC-EC] Replacement on Cross Community
> WorkingGroup on Internet Governance
>
> Hi
>
> > On Apr 9, 2016, at 06:19, avri doria <avri at apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > +1
> >
> > On 08-Apr-16 18:34, Matthew Shears wrote:
> >> I am a firm believer that this CCWG should exist and it should do so
> >> for a very specific reason:
>
>
> There has been an on again off again conversation for about the past year
> about the future of the CCWIG.  As I wrote to the NCSG-PC list in February,
>
> >> the CCW-IG was initially set up after the 2013 BA meeting to provide a
> written input to the NETmundial meeting.  Since then it has drifted with no
> ability to work on common texts of any kind (due to resistance from various
> biz actors we know), and indeed no ability to have a coherent discussion of
> this or other matters.  By default its sole activities have turned into a)
> pressing Nigel and Tarek to explain what they say in intergovernmental
> settings; and b) planning the public IG sessions, which have turned into
> MAG-like escapades with agenda control games (one guess who) being played
> out on weekly phone calls typically involving less than a dozen people.
> >>
> >> As the NCSG 'participant' on the CCWIG I'm inclined to think it should
> be wound down, or turned into a working party.  If people interested in the
> broader IG landscape want a place to talk about its relevance to ICANN,
> interface with staff who rep ICANN in intergovernmental spaces, and monkey
> around micromanaging the public IG session, fine, by why does it need to be
> a chartered CCWG with all the constraints that implies?  If it was a
> coalition of the willing, the group might actually able to say or do
> something, as the HR group has.
>
> I couldn't attend the F2F meeting of the group in Marrakech
> https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech55/schedule/wed-ccwg-ig  as the
> NomCom had a meeting at the same time.  But I'm told this was discussed a
> bit, and that the people in attendance decided that it should remain a
> CCWG, an organizational form that is apparently uniquely well suited to the
> two activities mentioned above.  So that's where things rest at the moment.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill
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