[NCUC-DISCUSS] Acceptance of nomination for NCUC EC

[Tapani Tarvainen]

On Nov 07 18:29, Mueller, Milton L (milton at gatech.edu) wrote:

> This gap between bylaws and reality and the need for better
> organization is one of the reasons I want to be on the EC, though it
> is not 100% necessary if you want to abide by formalities in this
> case (and ignore them in about 50 others).

Good. I believe one reason Bill brought this up is indeed the
problem that our bylaws are outdated and even self-contradictory
in places.

> As for the formalities, there is nothing in the bylaws that says a
> regionally elected EC member cannot also be appointed as
> Secretary-Treasurer.

Not directly, and in any case there're many ways around it, even if
they were so interpreted.

> Here's the problem: NCUC does not exist, as far as the banking
> system is concerned. So the bank account is treated as an individual
> account until and unless we incorporate. That means that, legally,
> the bank account is mine. Not NCUC's - mine. Of course I hold it in
> trust for NCUC and have done so for years, but moving it around is
> not as simple as Tapani and others have suggested, because banks tie
> these accounts to jurisdictions, they want to know where you live.
> They will not give an NCUC account because, as I said, NCUC does not
> exist. So we've had to give an individual custody. This account was
> established in Atlanta, Georgia, USA and giving it to someone who
> does not live here would mean either that the new person has to live
> here or you have to re-establish the entire account.

I have heard horror stories of US banking system before, but it
did not occur to me it could actually be so bad that you can't
share a bank account with someone in another state.

> In order to mature as an organization we need to incorporate NCUC,
> and then apply for 501 3 c (tax-exempt status) and that in turn
> means a hell of a lot of paperwork and legal work and a long wait.

It might be worth considering incorporating NCUC in some easier
jurisdiction.

At the moment the easiest place I can think of would be
Estonia with their e-residency system. It really makes
it easy to create international NGOs with minimal red tape,
hand over bank accounts regardless of where treasurer's
nationality and physical location &c.

It would also be nice symbolic gesture of making NCSG
more independent of the USA than ICANN itself is.

> So I'm still in the race. 

Good. So, here's a question for you, as a voter:

What do you think of a non-US jurisdiction for incorporating NCSG,
and of Estonia in particular?

-- 
Tapani Tarvainen