[NCUC-DISCUSS] French translation review

[Nicolas Adam]

No misrepresentation :)

(and sorry, was trying to bring in new set of french eyes to the 
specific task and thought a french shout out was not out of line)

Those suggestions are interesting. If there is space left on the 
document template we should consider putting them in.

Nicolas

On 2015-03-29 8:03 AM, Timothe Litt wrote:
> On 28-Mar-15 13:37, Nicolas Adam wrote:
>> Bonjour à vous chers collègues francophones (ou francophiles)!
>>
>> J'ai fait une autre lecture du document et y fais quelques 
>> changements, incluant la modification demandée par William. Il est 
>> certain que cette version n'est toujours pas parfaite, alors 
>> j'apprécierais si quelques-uns d'entre vous pouvaient la lire et 
>> entamer une discussion sur les choix de traduction contentieux qui y 
>> sont inévitables. En outre, je n'ai pas la prétention de ne jamais 
>> faire d'erreurs de grammaire ou d'orthographe ;)
>>
>> De cette manière nous pourrions envoyer une version finale à Maryam. 
>> SVP n'hésitez pas à faire valoir vos points de vue qui ne peuvent 
>> qu'enrichir la représentativité de la diversité culturelle 
>> francophone au sein de notre document de promotion.
>>
>> Merci d'avance!
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>
> Gee, do we need to start a reverse translation service for the non 
> Francophones?   Yes, I can read this, but when we start having 
> conversations in Thai and Chinese I'll be lost :-)   Seriously, I 
> don't object to non-English posts, but it really would be a good idea 
> to include (even a rough) translation.  That way the rest of the group 
> isn't isolated.
>
> Roughly (and no: while I didn't use automation, I'm not a native speaker):
>
> ===
>
> Dear French-speaking colleagues (and those who like French culture),
>
> I've made another pass over the document and made some changes, 
> including the one requested by William.  Certainly, this version isn't 
> perfect, so I would appreciate it if some of you could read it and 
> moderate the inevitable discussion of the choices that I made in its 
> translation.  I don't pretend to never make mistakes with grammar or 
> spelling :-)
>
> This way we will be able to send a final version to Maryam. Please 
> don't hesitate to add value with your points of view, which can only 
> enrich the representation of French-speaking culture and its diversity 
> in our promotional document.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> ===
>
> It's not a literal translation.  I'm sure Nicholas will chime in if I 
> misrepresented him.
>
> I don't think I have the language skills to do a good review of the 
> document - but I will note that it is currently a fairly literal 
> translation.
>
> That's fine, but I think it (and probably the other translations) need 
> some additional material.  Specifically:
>
> "Group discussions are in English, but we welcome speakers of other 
> languages.  We have many members who speak multiple languages, either 
> natively or as secondary languages.  These members are happy to help 
> you to understand the conversation and to express your points of 
> view.  It is not necessary to speak or write in perfect English to 
> participate in e-mail, teleconferences, meetings or document 
> preparation.  Members who speak/write in secondary languages make 
> mistakes too."
>
> "The ICANN website and documents are available in several languages, 
> including French."
>
> I could go either way on whether to include this language in the 
> English version.  They don't need to be identical.
>
> I've probably missed some points - hopefully you'll think of what else 
> is necessary to make the group be more approachable.
>
> Timothe Litt
> ACM Distinguished Engineer
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> if any, on the matters discussed.
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