[NCUC-DISCUSS] FW: Maintaining Systems

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Mon Oct 27 16:39:50 CET 2014


Come to ICANN, Tamir!  All kinds of soirees, although rarely are we 
invited...you have to be willing to crash parties.  And raise your own 
travel budget...
Very interesting comments.  I think it is one of the biggest risks 
facing civil society....fake civil society.  IMHO a battle we are losing.
Cheers Stephanie


On 2014-10-27, 10:58, Tamir Israel wrote:
> I keep hearing stuff like this. I wish someone would tell me where we 
> can sign up for our 'soiree' budget.... we've never really been able 
> to find any such thing.....
>
> On 27/10/2014 10:54 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>
>> Very interesting. I bought the book.
>>
>> Assange has some pretty harsh comments about the idea of an 
>> autonomous civil society:
>>
>> "Cohen's world seems to be one event like this after another: endless 
>> soirees for the cross-fertilization of influence between elites and 
>> their vassals, under the pious rubric of "civil society." The 
>> received wisdom in advanced capitalist societies is that there still 
>> exists an organic "civil society sector" in which institutions form 
>> autonomously and come together to manifest the interests and will of 
>> citizens. The fable has it that the boundaries of this sector are 
>> respected by actors from government and the "private sector," leaving 
>> a safe space for NGOs and nonprofits to advocate for things like 
>> human rights, free speech and accountable government.
>>
>> This sounds like a great idea. But if it was ever true, it has not 
>> been for decades. Since at least the 1970s, authentic actors like 
>> unions and churches have folded under a sustained assault by 
>> free-market statism, transforming "civil society" into a buyer's 
>> market for political factions and corporate interests looking to 
>> exert influence at arm's length. The last forty years have seen a 
>> huge proliferation of think tanks and political NGOs whose purpose, 
>> beneath all the verbiage, is to execute political agendas by proxy."
>>
>> *From:*ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org 
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>> [mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org] *On Behalf Of *DeeDee 
>> Halleck
>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:10 AM
>> *To:* ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org <mailto:ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
>> *Subject:* [NCUC-DISCUSS] Maintaining Systems
>>
>> http://www.newsweek.com/assange-google-not-what-it-seems-279447
>>
>> a useful read.
>>
>> xx
>>
>> DeeDee
>>
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