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    Come to ICANN, Tamir!  All kinds of soirees, although rarely are we
    invited...you have to be willing to crash parties.  And raise your
    own travel budget...<br>
    Very interesting comments.  I think it is one of the biggest risks
    facing civil society....fake civil society.  IMHO a battle we are
    losing.<br>
    Cheers Stephanie  <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2014-10-27, 10:58, Tamir Israel
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      I keep hearing stuff like this. I wish someone would tell me where
      we can sign up for our 'soiree' budget.... we've never really been
      able to find any such thing..... <br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/10/2014 10:54 AM, Milton L
        Mueller wrote:<br>
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                interesting. I bought the book. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                has some pretty harsh comments about the idea of an
                autonomous civil society:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                world seems to be one event like this after another:
                endless soirees for the cross-fertilization of influence
                between elites and their vassals, under the pious rubric
                of “civil society.” The received wisdom in advanced
                capitalist societies is that there still exists an
                organic “civil society sector” in which institutions
                form autonomously and come together to manifest the
                interests and will of citizens. The fable has it that
                the boundaries of this sector are respected by actors
                from government and the “private sector,” leaving a safe
                space for NGOs and nonprofits to advocate for things
                like human rights, free speech and accountable
                government.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                sounds like a great idea. But if it was ever true, it
                has not been for decades. Since at least the 1970s,
                authentic actors like unions and churches have folded
                under a sustained assault by free-market statism,
                transforming “civil society” into a buyer’s market for
                political factions and corporate interests looking to
                exert influence at arm’s length. The last forty years
                have seen a huge proliferation of think tanks and
                political NGOs whose purpose, beneath all the verbiage,
                is to execute political agendas by proxy.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>DeeDee

                      Halleck<br>
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                      Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:10 AM<br>
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                      [NCUC-DISCUSS] Maintaining Systems<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                    Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">a useful read.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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