[NCUC-DISCUSS] LA Travel Support Request

[Carlos A. Afonso]

Niels is not occupying any post in the NCUC structure, but according to
Bill's msg below he has been quite helpful. I would suggest option [4],
assuming we do have money available in this budget line.

frt rgds

--c.a.

On 10/01/2014 04:36 PM, William Drake wrote:
> Hi
> 
> We have a request for support to cover a plane trip to LA from Niels at
> Article 19.  As you know, Niels and his colleague Gabrielle have been
> quite active since joining NCUC a few months back, having taken the lead
> on drafting a couple NCSG policy statements including most recently the
> response to the Council of Europe human rights paper.  There will be a
> number of follow-up HR discussions in LA, including in the NCUC and NCSG
> constituency day meetings, a GAC meeting, and (if meeting staff can
> accommodate with space) a proposed cross-community meeting.  As such,
> I’d think it’d be good for our efforts if Niels could be there, and as
> we discussed in Istanbul, while it’s too late to do the whole formalized
> application process, we could consider offering ad hoc support as we
> have in the past.  
> 
> Problem is, at this late date, prices are high, plus he’s looking for a
> funky itinerary, coming from Sao Paulo to LA and then back home to
> Amsterdam.  He’s also proposing to leave a tad early, on the Thursday,
> so missing the meetings on accountability, IANA, and the Public Forum.
> 1,814.30 GBP = $2,935.33 USD, a thousand more than we are offering as of
> the Marrakech meeting. 
> 
> So we have 4 options: say 1) sorry no; 2) yes ok; 3) ok but a bit less
> than asked, like $2,500; or 4) $2,000 as we announced.  In the latter
> two, ask if A19 can’t pick up the difference (in addition to his hotel
> and other costs).  We could of course ask that the standard requirements
> we set out be met, e.g. participating in all activities, writing a blog
> about what happened at the meeting of relevance to NCUC, etc.
> 
> It’s worth noting that in the past we didn’t set a $2,000 limit, and
> have covered people serving on the NCSG EC or in other capacities in the
> $3,000 range.  So it while it’s a bit high, it wouldn’t be unprecedented.
> 
> What do people think?  In any event we should give him an answer soon,
> the meeting’s starting in ten days.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Bill
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> *From: *Niels ten Oever <niels at article19.org <mailto:niels at article19.org>>
>> *Subject: **Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Announcement: New NCUC Travel Support
>> Policy*
>> *Date: *October 1, 2014 at 8:45:10 PM GMT+2
>> *To: *William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>>
>>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>
>> Dear Bill,
>>
>> I got a flight option for my itinerary for 1814.30 British Pound (see
>> below). Article19 will pick up the costs for hotel and the rest. Would
>> that be OK ?
>>
>> I would like to attend ICANN LA to work on mainstreaming Human Rights
>> in ICANN by a) furthering the process around establishing a cross
>> community working group in ICANN on Human Rights, which could
>> eventually lead to the establishment of a Human Rights Advisory
>> Council. This is a process which started with the release of the
>> report of the council of Europe and which we supported by co-drafting
>> the NCSG comments on this report. At the ICANN LA meeting there will
>> be about meeting about this.
>>
>> Furthermore I will work on making a Network Map of stakeholders in
>> NCUC and NCSG to improve the engagement of new users. This process
>> will lead to the implementation and usage of new tools to make is
>> easier for new users to engage in the policy processes. I am working
>> on this with Rafik and Heather Leason.
>>
>> Looking forward to hear from you so I can confirm my ticket so the
>> price won't get even higher.
>>
>> Let me know if you have any questions or comments.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Niels
>>
>>
>>
>> - -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: RE: flight options
>> Date: 10/01/2014 01:19 PM
>> From: Renato Alesi <Renato at article19.org <mailto:Renato at article19.org>>
>> To: Niels ten Oever <niels at article19.org <mailto:niels at article19.org>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Options below.
>>
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>> AA flight is GBP1182.50 fee GBP33 and KLM charity fare at GBP631.80
>>
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>> *Flights*
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>> Airline
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>> Depart
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>> From
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>> Arrive
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>> Flight Duration
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>> American Airlines
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>> AA216
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>> Fri 10-Oct-14 22:05
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>> Guarulhos Arpt, Sao Paulo
>> from Terminal 3
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>> Los Angeles Intl Arpt, Los Angeles
>> arrive Terminal 4
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>> Sat 11-Oct-14 06:30
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>> 12 h 25 m
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>> KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
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>> KL602
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>> Thu 16-Oct-14 13:50
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>> Los Angeles Intl Arpt, Los Angeles
>> from Terminal B
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>> Schiphol Arpt, Amsterdam
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>> Fri 17-Oct-14 09:05
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>> 10 h 15 m
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>> On 09/28/2014 09:56 AM, William Drake wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> The new open call process doesn’t begin until next year but we can
>>> take proposals on an ad hoc basis, why not.  Send me a message
>>> laying out why you should be there (copying below) plus with
>>> specific cost elements, flight and cheap hotel.  The closer you can
>>> get to the $2,000 range the better.  Your intended itinerary sounds
>>> bloody expensive.  Can A19 make up the difference?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> BD
>>>
>>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Niels ten Oever <niels at article19.org
>>> <mailto:niels at article19.org>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> I hope this email finds you well. I would like to apply for travel
>>> support for the LA meeting if that would still be possible.
>>>
>>> The main reasons for me to attend are the follow-up meetings around
>>> the Council of Europe report (on which we co-authored the
>>> comments for the NCSG) and the potential establishment of the Human
>>> Rights Advisory Council. Next to that I am working with Rafik (with
>>> support from Heather Leason and Brenden Kuerbis) on improving
>>> information flows in the NCSG. For this I will start making a
>>> Network map [0, 1, 2] at the LA meeting which will help us make
>>> better tools and information flows to engage newcomers in the NCSG
>>> & NCUC in the policy process (by using Confluence, wikis, etc).
>>>
>>> [0]
>>> http://schoolofdata.org/2014/09/10/how-to-network-mapping-builds-community/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> [1] http://infogr.am/build-your-community?src=web
>>> [2]
>>> http://wiki.okfn.org/Projects/School_of_Data/Community_Resources
>>>
>>> I would be coming from Sao Paulo (Brazil) and I would be traveling
>>> back to the Amsterdam (Netherlands) after the meeting.
>>>
>>> I hope this works out, let me know if you need more information of
>>> if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Niels
>>>
>>> Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
>>>
>>> Article 19 www.article19.org
>>>
>>> PGP fingerprint = 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D
>>> 68E9
>>>
>>> On 09/25/2014 10:26 AM, William Drake wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The NCUC EC met in Istanbul at the IGF, minutes forthcoming.
>>>>>> One of the things we did was approve a new policy designed
>>>>>> to help active NCUC members attend ICANN meetings.  The
>>>>>> language was finalized yesterday and will soon be posted to
>>>>>> the website for future reference, but below is the text.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is hoped that this will help us to get more members to
>>>>>> meetings and engaged in our work, while living within the
>>>>>> means of our resources and volunteers’ time.  Sorry we can’t
>>>>>> offer more deluxe treatment, but hopefully it will be enough
>>>>>> to facilitate some increased participation nonetheless.  I
>>>>>> know of no other civil society coalition working on Internet
>>>>>> governance issues that is doing this, and I’m very happy that
>>>>>> our fundraising (support principally from PIR and CGI.br,
>>>>>> sometimes other contributions) has enabled us to take this
>>>>>> step.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is unfortunately too late to do this for the Los Angeles
>>>>>> meeting. However, if there are any members who would meet the
>>>>>> criteria below and who’ve already made plans to attend on
>>>>>> their own steam but are struggling to cover their costs, we
>>>>>> could consider a request or two on an ad hoc basis, probably
>>>>>> at a lower level of support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
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