[NCUC-DISCUSS] LA Travel Support Request

Wed Oct 1 22:47:30 CEST 2014

I would fund the travel if they have been active and there is a strong
belief their participation will be beneficial.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 12:36 PM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> We have a request for support to cover a plane trip to LA from Niels at
> Article 19.  As you know, Niels and his colleague Gabrielle have been quite
> active since joining NCUC a few months back, having taken the lead on
> drafting a couple NCSG policy statements including most recently the
> response to the Council of Europe human rights paper.  There will be a
> number of follow-up HR discussions in LA, including in the NCUC and NCSG
> constituency day meetings, a GAC meeting, and (if meeting staff can
> accommodate with space) a proposed cross-community meeting.  As such, I’d
> think it’d be good for our efforts if Niels could be there, and as we
> discussed in Istanbul, while it’s too late to do the whole formalized
> application process, we could consider offering ad hoc support as we have in
> the past.
>
> Problem is, at this late date, prices are high, plus he’s looking for a
> funky itinerary, coming from Sao Paulo to LA and then back home to
> Amsterdam.  He’s also proposing to leave a tad early, on the Thursday, so
> missing the meetings on accountability, IANA, and the Public Forum. 1,814.30
> GBP = $2,935.33 USD, a thousand more than we are offering as of the
> Marrakech meeting.
>
> So we have 4 options: say 1) sorry no; 2) yes ok; 3) ok but a bit less than
> asked, like $2,500; or 4) $2,000 as we announced.  In the latter two, ask if
> A19 can’t pick up the difference (in addition to his hotel and other costs).
> We could of course ask that the standard requirements we set out be met,
> e.g. participating in all activities, writing a blog about what happened at
> the meeting of relevance to NCUC, etc.
>
> It’s worth noting that in the past we didn’t set a $2,000 limit, and have
> covered people serving on the NCSG EC or in other capacities in the $3,000
> range.  So it while it’s a bit high, it wouldn’t be unprecedented.
>
> What do people think?  In any event we should give him an answer soon, the
> meeting’s starting in ten days.
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
>
> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Niels ten Oever <niels at article19.org>
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Announcement: New NCUC Travel Support Policy
> Date: October 1, 2014 at 8:45:10 PM GMT+2
> To: William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com>
>
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> Dear Bill,
>
> I got a flight option for my itinerary for 1814.30 British Pound (see
> below). Article19 will pick up the costs for hotel and the rest. Would
> that be OK ?
>
> I would like to attend ICANN LA to work on mainstreaming Human Rights
> in ICANN by a) furthering the process around establishing a cross
> community working group in ICANN on Human Rights, which could
> eventually lead to the establishment of a Human Rights Advisory
> Council. This is a process which started with the release of the
> report of the council of Europe and which we supported by co-drafting
> the NCSG comments on this report. At the ICANN LA meeting there will
> be about meeting about this.
>
> Furthermore I will work on making a Network Map of stakeholders in
> NCUC and NCSG to improve the engagement of new users. This process
> will lead to the implementation and usage of new tools to make is
> easier for new users to engage in the policy processes. I am working
> on this with Rafik and Heather Leason.
>
> Looking forward to hear from you so I can confirm my ticket so the
> price won't get even higher.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or comments.
>
> Best,
>
> Niels
>
>
>
> - -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: flight options
> Date: 10/01/2014 01:19 PM
> From: Renato Alesi <Renato at article19.org>
> To: Niels ten Oever <niels at article19.org>
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> Options below.
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> AA flight is GBP1182.50 fee GBP33 and KLM charity fare at GBP631.80
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> American Airlines
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> AA216
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> Fri 10-Oct-14 22:05
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> Guarulhos Arpt, Sao Paulo
> from Terminal 3
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> Los Angeles Intl Arpt, Los Angeles
> arrive Terminal 4
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> Sat 11-Oct-14 06:30
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> 12 h 25 m
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> KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
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> KL602
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> Thu 16-Oct-14 13:50
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> Los Angeles Intl Arpt, Los Angeles
> from Terminal B
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> Schiphol Arpt, Amsterdam
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> Fri 17-Oct-14 09:05
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> 10 h 15 m
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> On 09/28/2014 09:56 AM, William Drake wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> The new open call process doesn’t begin until next year but we can
> take proposals on an ad hoc basis, why not.  Send me a message
> laying out why you should be there (copying below) plus with
> specific cost elements, flight and cheap hotel.  The closer you can
> get to the $2,000 range the better.  Your intended itinerary sounds
> bloody expensive.  Can A19 make up the difference?
>
> Cheers
>
> BD
>
> On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Niels ten Oever <niels at article19.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> I hope this email finds you well. I would like to apply for travel
> support for the LA meeting if that would still be possible.
>
> The main reasons for me to attend are the follow-up meetings around
> the Council of Europe report (on which we co-authored the
> comments for the NCSG) and the potential establishment of the Human
> Rights Advisory Council. Next to that I am working with Rafik (with
> support from Heather Leason and Brenden Kuerbis) on improving
> information flows in the NCSG. For this I will start making a
> Network map [0, 1, 2] at the LA meeting which will help us make
> better tools and information flows to engage newcomers in the NCSG
> & NCUC in the policy process (by using Confluence, wikis, etc).
>
> [0]
> http://schoolofdata.org/2014/09/10/how-to-network-mapping-builds-community/
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> [1] http://infogr.am/build-your-community?src=web
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> [2]
> http://wiki.okfn.org/Projects/School_of_Data/Community_Resources
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> I would be coming from Sao Paulo (Brazil) and I would be traveling
> back to the Amsterdam (Netherlands) after the meeting.
>
> I hope this works out, let me know if you need more information of
> if you have any questions.
>
> Best,
>
> Niels
>
> Niels ten Oever Head of Digital
>
> Article 19 www.article19.org
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> On 09/25/2014 10:26 AM, William Drake wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> The NCUC EC met in Istanbul at the IGF, minutes forthcoming.
> One of the things we did was approve a new policy designed
> to help active NCUC members attend ICANN meetings.  The
> language was finalized yesterday and will soon be posted to
> the website for future reference, but below is the text.
>
> It is hoped that this will help us to get more members to
> meetings and engaged in our work, while living within the
> means of our resources and volunteers’ time.  Sorry we can’t
> offer more deluxe treatment, but hopefully it will be enough
> to facilitate some increased participation nonetheless.  I
> know of no other civil society coalition working on Internet
> governance issues that is doing this, and I’m very happy that
> our fundraising (support principally from PIR and CGI.br,
> sometimes other contributions) has enabled us to take this
> step.
>
> It is unfortunately too late to do this for the Los Angeles
> meeting. However, if there are any members who would meet the
> criteria below and who’ve already made plans to attend on
> their own steam but are struggling to cover their costs, we
> could consider a request or two on an ad hoc basis, probably
> at a lower level of support.
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
>
>
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