[NCUC-DISCUSS] ICANN FY15 Budget decisions of relevance to NCUC

Tue May 6 19:16:09 CEST 2014

Hi Maria,

we were supposed to discuss the budget during the call. I sent email to Rob
previously ( he is an ICANN staff) since we asked previously for such admin
support and I made the budget request on behalf of NCSG  . we will get more
info  and details in next weeks  from him and it should be more than
current services we get from GNSO secretariat. I am somehow optimistic ..
till I get the details :)

Rafik

2014-05-07 1:59 GMT+09:00 Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com>:

> On the admin support, this sounds like a brush-off:
>
>
> "*Further to another long-running but low-level conversation, provision of
> part time staff administrative support to NCSG.  "ICANN staff will provide
> part-time in-kind support on a pilot basis for administrative staff support
> resources to non-contracted GNSO communities (equivalent of approximately
> 12 hours a week of support). Funds will not be provided directly to the
> community. Support will be offered on a "functional" basis and managed by
> the ICANN staff (i.e., specific staff assigned to specific functions like
> elections, telephone support, etc.). Staff will coordinate specific points
> of contact for the community to ensure that requests for service are
> provided in a timely manner.”  "
>
> i.e. we will help to set up calls, run elections and specific tasks you
> ask us for, but not offer an actual admin person to help out overall. is
> that correct? Because that is pretty much where we started, and doesn't do
> what we need, which is to round up specific comment response deadlines and
> help us manage the process for getting input to them.
>
> Or have I misinterpreted and they actually are offering the general admin
> support we want?
>
> Maria
>
>
> On 6 May 2014 13:37, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> I asked Fahd twice about this committee and affirmed that will take
>> decision. I suspect that there is misunderstanding and requested to know
>> who are the contact point among ICANN staff, those listed by Amr.
>> I do encourag to apply soon for those travel slots for this fiscal year
>> since the new should start in July. CROPP is still pilot program and may be
>> not renewed after FY15
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> 2014-05-06 21:32 GMT+09:00 Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yeah…, I was a bit surprised by this. I heard it from Fadh Batayneh
>>> (ICANN staffer on stakeholder engagement for the ME) on the Middle East
>>> Strategy Working Group list. One of the MESWG members is on that committee.
>>> Just an FYI.
>>>
>>> Rob and Janice are both pretty helpful. I’m sure they want CROPP to work
>>> out.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Amr
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2014, at 2:21 PM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Amr
>>>
>>> I have not heard anything about a Coordinating Committee that makes
>>> decisions.  I thought staff does that.  I don’t think they’re too
>>> restrictive, they want the program to operate.  We just haven’t asked for
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> What I do know about is that we and other groupings were asked to
>>> designate contact points for coordination with staff.  Pranesh and I are
>>> listed for that
>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/CROPP+Contacts
>>> .
>>>
>>> If you have other concrete info I’m all ears.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at EGYPTIG.ORG> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> Regarding the CROPP; I have recently learnt that there is a CROPP
>>> Coordinating Committee that is exclusively made up of ALS reps. One of this
>>> committee’s mandates is to approve/reject applications. This is not
>>> reflected in the process posted here:
>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/Outreach+Pilot+Processing+Flow+Diagram
>>>
>>> Since there GNSO constituencies (as well as At-Large) are beneficiaries
>>> of this program, I don’t know if you would like to see about getting NCUC
>>> reps on that committee. I believe Rob Hoggarth and Janice Douma Lange are
>>> the ICANN staff members responsible.
>>>
>>> Good luck with the rest.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Amr
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2014, at 1:48 PM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> From:
>>> http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-30apr14-en.htm
>>>
>>> Approved Board Resolutions | Regular Meeting of the ICANN Board
>>>
>>> 30 April 2014
>>>
>>> Resolved (2014.04.30.07), the Board approves committing funds during
>>> FY15
>>> in the amount of up to $700,000 for the SO/AC additional budget requests
>>> as indicated in the attached list
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.icann.org/en/about/financials/budget-requests-fy15-30apr14-en.pdf
>>>
>>> We’ve done pretty well with budget requests for the next fiscal years.
>>>  Some highlights:
>>>
>>> *Approval of the NCUC and NCSG requests for travel support for panelists
>>> at the IGF, subject to MAG approval of our workshop proposals at its 20-21
>>> May meeting.  Staff have added new provisos to IGF requests: "Travelers
>>> must agree to produce a trip report on what the support made possible -
>>> i.e., other work, mtgs. Travelers will be expected to give some support
>>> time to ICANN while at the IGF meeting (e.g., booth attendance, etc.,).”
>>>  I’m fine with the former, the latter raises some questions.
>>>
>>> *Approval of the NCSG-CSG request for another Noncontracted “House”
>>> meeting, based on our 2012 meeting.
>>>
>>> *Further to another long-running but low-level conversation, provision
>>> of part time staff administrative support to NCSG.  "ICANN staff will
>>> provide part-time in-kind support on a pilot basis for administrative staff
>>> support resources to non-contracted GNSO communities (equivalent of
>>> approximately 12 hours a week of support). Funds will not be
>>> provided directly to the community. Support will be offered on a
>>> "functional" basis and managed by the ICANN staff (i.e., specific staff
>>> assigned to specific functions like elections, telephone support, etc.).
>>> Staff will coordinate specific points of contact for the community to
>>> ensure that requests for service are provided in a timely manner.”
>>>
>>> *ICANN staff were pretty impressed with the positive response and big
>>> turn-out at our Singapore conference, and suggested to me at the time that
>>> well, if you guys can do this, maybe other parts of the community will want
>>> and be able to, too.  And so lo and behold, ICANN has set aside $33,300
>>> for Pre-public Meeting Seminars (odd formulation there).  More interesting
>>> wording: "These types of efforts have proven to be quite useful and popular
>>> to the community in the past. One ‘conference' slot and room support
>>> available for an ICANN community to host a pre-Public Meeting policy
>>> conference before each ICANN Public Meeting in FY15. To be developed by
>>> ICANN staff based on previous NCUC (San Francisco and Singapore) model. To
>>> the extent demand exceeds supply, conference slots will be initially
>>> selected by lottery and rotated among community groups as appropriate.”  So
>>> yes, a conference is possible before each public meeting.  Whether covered
>>> travelers’ allocations would thereby be extended to allow arrival a day
>>> earlier to attend is not clear.  Also not clear is whether/how soon we
>>> could get something again via lottery/rotation—I suppose they’d like to
>>> give a chance to others first.  Perhaps NCSG should propose something?
>>>
>>> *Extension for a year of the CROPP program for funding community
>>> representatives’ outreach attendance at meetings within their region.  We
>>> have yet to apply for any such support and should consider.
>>>
>>> *Regularized funding now available for print publications, should we
>>> ever feel the urge.  Thus far we’ve only asked for and received money for
>>> printing of our brochure (English and Spanish) and Singapore conference
>>> program.  Issue papers etc. would be possible, if we could agree on doing
>>> such things.
>>>
>>> All TBC...
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ***********************************************
>>> William J. Drake
>>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
>>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
>>>   ICANN, www.ncuc.org
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