[NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Delegate to the 2015 NomCom
Carlos A. Afonso
ca at cafonso.ca
Mon Aug 25 14:55:43 CEST 2014
In any case we do need to think of a better representation with the
abolition of the NomCom once and for all, and with moving representation
from the contractor-"owner" relationship to the user or consumer of the
resource.
In the case of ccTLDs there are some good straightforward examples --
CIRA's board is elected by the domain name holders, not registrars
(although its contracts -- both CIRA's and the domain holder -- are with
registrars).
If the IANA transition concludes with the IP addressing being managed by
some I* arrangement ex-ICANN (like formalizing NRO as the IP addressing
governance body, something which is basically already happening in
practice), and since ccTLDs are managed in practice by the respective
bodies in each country (with a large variety of approaches), ICANN would
be left with the business of gTLDs only. I may be not accurate, but I
think all the RIRs elect their boards much like LACNIC.
If this were so, ICANN's board could be elected by the gTLD domain name
holders' community, in a direct mechanism which would ensure
proportionality (otherwise .com would always elect most if not all board
members).
fraternal regards
--c.a.
On 08/24/2014 07:08 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> I think Kathy makes an important point. ICANN's contracts are with registries and registrars, and more than 90% of its budget comes from them. This of course indirectly affects individual and organizational registrants such as the people we are supposed to represent. The idea that a board selected primarily by ccTLDs and RIRs would be deciding issues that are 90% domains doesn't make a lot of sense, either from an equity or an efficiency standpoint.
>
> --MM
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org [mailto:ncuc-discuss-
>> bounces at lists.ncuc.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman
>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:51 AM
>> To: ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Delegate to the 2015 NomCom
>>
>> All,
>> My gut sense says that we should study this proposal closely. It gives an awful
>> lot of weight and votes to Supporting Organizations that do not, themselves,
>> allow ICANN a role in their governance (ASO, ccNSO), but would now be having
>> a much greater weight in appointing representatives to our governance (namely
>> the Board and its work with GNSO issues). The implications could be astounding.
>>
>> I recommend that we talk more. I would value the review and input of those
>> who served on the Nominating Committee, those who have a strong knowledge
>> of the other supporting organizations, and everyone.
>>
>> Like the proposal to change the GAC's power, this is one with great implications
>> for the GNSO.
>> Best,
>> Kathy
>> p.s. how does 5 GNSO representatives but only 3 votes mean? Can anyone
>> previously on the NomCom talk about some complexities that might add
>> (currently I think it is one rep, one vote).
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Further, i neglected to say, i think they thought it through in
>>> admirable fashion and make sense.
>>>
>>> I see their solution as being fair. I suggest we do not oppose it,
>>> neither as a constituency nor as SG, but rather comment individually
>>> if we wish.
>>>
>>> avri
>>>
>>> On 22-Aug-14 16:52, avri doria wrote:
>>>> The only people losing votes are csg Why is that a problem for ncsg?
>>>>
>>>> Business is not our business. And as the lone civil society sg, we
>>>> should ally ourselves more with other non business.
>>>>
>>>> I do not see this as a bad thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> avri
>>>>
>>>> Sent from a T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Kathy Kleiman
>>>> Date:08/22/2014 4:21 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>> To: ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Delegate to the 2015 NomCom
>>>>
>>>> Wow, if these rules are adopted, we (the GNSO) would be outvoted by
>>>> Supporting Organizations who do not allow ICANN to run their
>>>> businesses (ccNSO and ASO). This is a real problem.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Kathy
>>>>
>>>> :
>>>>> Carlos,
>>>>>
>>>>> While it may not go away soon, it may look substantially different
>>>>> in the future. The Board Working Group Report on Nominating
>>>>> Committee
>>>>> (BWG-NomCom) was just released for public comment. I'm still
>>>>> digesting what they've recommended, but they propose some substantial
>> changes:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/bwg-nomcom-2014-08-21-en
>>>>>
>>>>> I encourage everyone to take a moment to read through this.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Brenden
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca
>>>>> <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Since this NomCom concoction will not go away any soon, I of course
>>>>> support Brenden.
>>>>>
>>>>> --c.a.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/22/2014 02:59 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote:
>>>>> > Yes, +1 to Brenden.
>>>>> > Marília
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Robin Gross
>>>>> <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>
>>>>> > <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Brenden has my full support for 2nd term. NCUC is lucky
>>>>> that he is
>>>>> > willing to do it again.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> > Robin
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Aug 22, 2014, at 4:10 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I'm all for Brenden staying on for another term as NCUC's
>>>>> delegate
>>>>> >> to the NomCom. Glad he's willing.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thanks.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Amr
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Aug 22, 2014, at 9:31 AM, William Drake
>>>>> <wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>>>
>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Hi
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> We need to appoint a NCUC delegate to the 2015 ICANN NomCom
>> in
>>>>> >>> the next week or so. It's unfortunate that NomCom's cycle
>>>>> >>> doesn't synch with our election cycle but c'est la vie.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> *What is the Nomcom?*
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> ICANN's Nominating Committee (NomCom) is responsible for the
>>>>> >>> selection of eight ICANN Board Members and for other
>>>>> selections
>>>>> >>> as are set forth in the Bylaws. (See Bylaws Article VII,
>>>>> Section
>>>>> >>> 1 athttp://www.icann.org/general/bylaws.htm#VII-1
>>>>> <http://www.icann.org/general/bylaws.htm#VII-1>)
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> The NomCom is also charged with appointing some members of
>>>>> the At
>>>>> >>> Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), the Country Code Names
>>>>> >>> Supporting Organization (ccNSO) Council and the Generic Names
>>>>> >>> Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council. The NomCom
>> complements
>>>>> >>> the other means for filling a portion of key ICANN leadership
>>>>> >>> positions achieved within the Supporting Organizations and
>>>>> >>> Advisory Committees.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Together, the NomCom and Supporting Organization/Advisory
>>>>> >>> Committee selection pathways ensure that ICANN benefits from
>>>>> >>> functional, cultural and geographic diversity in its policy
>>>>> >>> development and decision-making as the Internet evolves.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> *Who serves on Nomcom? *
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> ICANN's SOs and ACs send appointees to serve up to two
>>>>> >>> consecutive one-year terms on the Nomcom. You can read
>>>>> more about
>>>>> >>> the structure here <http://nomcom.icann.org
>>>>> >>> <http://nomcom.icann.org/>>.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> *Who is NCUC's current appointee to Nomcom?*
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> For 2014-2015, Brenden Kuerbis of the Internet Governance
>>>>> Project
>>>>> >>> served. He took over for Rafik Dammak, who was elected to
>>>>> NCSG Chair.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Brenden has expressed interest to the Exec Com in
>>>>> continuing as
>>>>> >>> NCUC's appointee. Despite joining midstream, he was able
>>>>> to make
>>>>> >>> a positive impact from recruiting applicants to selecting
>>>>> >>> individuals to positions. Selections were announced on the
>>>>> ICANN
>>>>> >>> website August 15
>>>>> >>> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-15-en>.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Next year is an important cycle for Nomcom. It includes
>>>>> >>> selections for 3 board seats and 2 NCAs to the GNSO, as
>>>>> well as
>>>>> >>> other positions. Brenden has asked the EC for names of
>>>>> people we
>>>>> >>> should approach about applying, as well as opportunities
>>>>> where we
>>>>> >>> might do general outreach. He is also happy to speak with us
>>>>> >>> about the process and how NCUC can best engage it.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Would anyone else be interested in being considered for this
>>>>> >>> position? If so we could have the contending applicants make
>>>>> >>> their cases here on the list and then the EC would decide
>>>>> taking
>>>>> >>> into account the views expressed, an assessment of the
>>>>> >>> applicants' qualifications, etc. If not, the EC can just go
>>>>> >>> ahead and vote on Brenden's renewal.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Let's please move on this in the next week, before the IGF.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Thanks,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Bill
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> ***********************************************
>>>>> >>> William J. Drake
>>>>> >>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>>>> >>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>>>> >>> University of Zurich, Switzerland
>>>>> >>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
>>>>> >>> ICANN, www.ncuc.org <http://www.ncuc.org>
>>>>> <http://www.ncuc.org/>
>>>>> >>> william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>
>>>>> >>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch
>>>>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>> (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>>
>> (lists),
>>>>> >>> www.williamdrake.org <http://www.williamdrake.org>
>>>>> <http://www.williamdrake.org/>
>>>>> >>> ***********************************************
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