[NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Delegate to the 2015 NomCom
Milton L Mueller
mueller at syr.edu
Mon Aug 25 00:08:01 CEST 2014
I think Kathy makes an important point. ICANN's contracts are with registries and registrars, and more than 90% of its budget comes from them. This of course indirectly affects individual and organizational registrants such as the people we are supposed to represent. The idea that a board selected primarily by ccTLDs and RIRs would be deciding issues that are 90% domains doesn't make a lot of sense, either from an equity or an efficiency standpoint.
--MM
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org [mailto:ncuc-discuss-
> bounces at lists.ncuc.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:51 AM
> To: ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Delegate to the 2015 NomCom
>
> All,
> My gut sense says that we should study this proposal closely. It gives an awful
> lot of weight and votes to Supporting Organizations that do not, themselves,
> allow ICANN a role in their governance (ASO, ccNSO), but would now be having
> a much greater weight in appointing representatives to our governance (namely
> the Board and its work with GNSO issues). The implications could be astounding.
>
> I recommend that we talk more. I would value the review and input of those
> who served on the Nominating Committee, those who have a strong knowledge
> of the other supporting organizations, and everyone.
>
> Like the proposal to change the GAC's power, this is one with great implications
> for the GNSO.
> Best,
> Kathy
> p.s. how does 5 GNSO representatives but only 3 votes mean? Can anyone
> previously on the NomCom talk about some complexities that might add
> (currently I think it is one rep, one vote).
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Further, i neglected to say, i think they thought it through in
> > admirable fashion and make sense.
> >
> > I see their solution as being fair. I suggest we do not oppose it,
> > neither as a constituency nor as SG, but rather comment individually
> > if we wish.
> >
> > avri
> >
> > On 22-Aug-14 16:52, avri doria wrote:
> >> The only people losing votes are csg Why is that a problem for ncsg?
> >>
> >> Business is not our business. And as the lone civil society sg, we
> >> should ally ourselves more with other non business.
> >>
> >> I do not see this as a bad thing.
> >>
> >>
> >> avri
> >>
> >> Sent from a T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original message --------
> >> From: Kathy Kleiman
> >> Date:08/22/2014 4:21 PM (GMT-05:00)
> >> To: ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org
> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Delegate to the 2015 NomCom
> >>
> >> Wow, if these rules are adopted, we (the GNSO) would be outvoted by
> >> Supporting Organizations who do not allow ICANN to run their
> >> businesses (ccNSO and ASO). This is a real problem.
> >> Best,
> >> Kathy
> >>
> >> :
> >>> Carlos,
> >>>
> >>> While it may not go away soon, it may look substantially different
> >>> in the future. The Board Working Group Report on Nominating
> >>> Committee
> >>> (BWG-NomCom) was just released for public comment. I'm still
> >>> digesting what they've recommended, but they propose some substantial
> changes:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/bwg-nomcom-2014-08-21-en
> >>>
> >>> I encourage everyone to take a moment to read through this.
> >>>
> >>> -Brenden
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca
> >>> <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Since this NomCom concoction will not go away any soon, I of course
> >>> support Brenden.
> >>>
> >>> --c.a.
> >>>
> >>> On 08/22/2014 02:59 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote:
> >>> > Yes, +1 to Brenden.
> >>> > Marília
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Robin Gross
> >>> <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>
> >>> > <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Brenden has my full support for 2nd term. NCUC is lucky
> >>> that he is
> >>> > willing to do it again.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> > Robin
> >>> >
> >>> > On Aug 22, 2014, at 4:10 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Hi,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I'm all for Brenden staying on for another term as NCUC's
> >>> delegate
> >>> >> to the NomCom. Glad he's willing.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Amr
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Aug 22, 2014, at 9:31 AM, William Drake
> >>> <wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>
> >>> >> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> Hi
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> We need to appoint a NCUC delegate to the 2015 ICANN NomCom
> in
> >>> >>> the next week or so. It's unfortunate that NomCom's cycle
> >>> >>> doesn't synch with our election cycle but c'est la vie.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> *What is the Nomcom?*
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> ICANN's Nominating Committee (NomCom) is responsible for the
> >>> >>> selection of eight ICANN Board Members and for other
> >>> selections
> >>> >>> as are set forth in the Bylaws. (See Bylaws Article VII,
> >>> Section
> >>> >>> 1 athttp://www.icann.org/general/bylaws.htm#VII-1
> >>> <http://www.icann.org/general/bylaws.htm#VII-1>)
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> The NomCom is also charged with appointing some members of
> >>> the At
> >>> >>> Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), the Country Code Names
> >>> >>> Supporting Organization (ccNSO) Council and the Generic Names
> >>> >>> Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council. The NomCom
> complements
> >>> >>> the other means for filling a portion of key ICANN leadership
> >>> >>> positions achieved within the Supporting Organizations and
> >>> >>> Advisory Committees.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Together, the NomCom and Supporting Organization/Advisory
> >>> >>> Committee selection pathways ensure that ICANN benefits from
> >>> >>> functional, cultural and geographic diversity in its policy
> >>> >>> development and decision-making as the Internet evolves.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> *Who serves on Nomcom? *
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> ICANN's SOs and ACs send appointees to serve up to two
> >>> >>> consecutive one-year terms on the Nomcom. You can read
> >>> more about
> >>> >>> the structure here <http://nomcom.icann.org
> >>> >>> <http://nomcom.icann.org/>>.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> *Who is NCUC's current appointee to Nomcom?*
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> For 2014-2015, Brenden Kuerbis of the Internet Governance
> >>> Project
> >>> >>> served. He took over for Rafik Dammak, who was elected to
> >>> NCSG Chair.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Brenden has expressed interest to the Exec Com in
> >>> continuing as
> >>> >>> NCUC's appointee. Despite joining midstream, he was able
> >>> to make
> >>> >>> a positive impact from recruiting applicants to selecting
> >>> >>> individuals to positions. Selections were announced on the
> >>> ICANN
> >>> >>> website August 15
> >>> >>> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-15-en>.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Next year is an important cycle for Nomcom. It includes
> >>> >>> selections for 3 board seats and 2 NCAs to the GNSO, as
> >>> well as
> >>> >>> other positions. Brenden has asked the EC for names of
> >>> people we
> >>> >>> should approach about applying, as well as opportunities
> >>> where we
> >>> >>> might do general outreach. He is also happy to speak with us
> >>> >>> about the process and how NCUC can best engage it.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Would anyone else be interested in being considered for this
> >>> >>> position? If so we could have the contending applicants make
> >>> >>> their cases here on the list and then the EC would decide
> >>> taking
> >>> >>> into account the views expressed, an assessment of the
> >>> >>> applicants' qualifications, etc. If not, the EC can just go
> >>> >>> ahead and vote on Brenden's renewal.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Let's please move on this in the next week, before the IGF.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Thanks,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Bill
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> ***********************************************
> >>> >>> William J. Drake
> >>> >>> International Fellow & Lecturer
> >>> >>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
> >>> >>> University of Zurich, Switzerland
> >>> >>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
> >>> >>> ICANN, www.ncuc.org <http://www.ncuc.org>
> >>> <http://www.ncuc.org/>
> >>> >>> william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>
> >>> >>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch
> >>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>> (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>
> >>> >>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>>
> (lists),
> >>> >>> www.williamdrake.org <http://www.williamdrake.org>
> >>> <http://www.williamdrake.org/>
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