[NCUC-DISCUSS] Increasing GAC influence?

[Jean Guillon]

There is a comment to this post in CircleId which refers to "corruption":
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140814_call_for_icann_to_educate_and_not_mislead_gac/#10183


On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I read the article. I think he exaggerates the danger.
>
> I tend to think it wont make much difference because the board pretty
> much works on consensus these days, holding off on voes until rough
> consensus is reached.  I.e they already work to a higher standard.
>
> I argue pretty much everywhere for an equal footing standard. The Board
> needs to be the one balancing out the various voices in the decsions
> while remaining accountable to all of the SOAC groupings.
>
> The thing that bothers me the most on this is that this leaves the other
> ACs in a subordinate position, i.e still not on an equal footing.
>
> As for us fighting it, I am not in favor of spending a lot of energy on
> this.   In the GNSO the voice of business predominates (3SG : 1SG), i.e.
> we have a minority position. How much energy do we wish to put into
> fighting for the supremacy of pro-commercial decision making?
>
> avri
>
>
>
> On 19-Aug-14 08:23, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I think it may make GAC much more powerful -- essentially a veto over
> > the GNSO process (and the other supporting organizations as well).
> > Michael Geist's article on this is good --
> >
> http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2014/08/government-control-internet-governance-icann-proposes-giving-gac-increased-power-board-decisions/
> >
> >
> > I think we should think hard about opposing...
> > Best,
> > Kathy
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > What it essentially does is put GAC on an equal footing with GNSO,
> > ccNSO and maybe ASO.
> >
> > avri
> >
> >
> > On 18-Aug-14 22:50, William Drake wrote:
> >>>> Hi
> >>>>
> >>>> Well this is interesting.  ICANN’s proposing a bylaws change that
> >>>> would would require 2/3 of the voting members of the Board to vote
> >>>> to act inconsistently with a piece of GAC advice.  Currently, the
> >>>> Bylaws require a simple majority of the Board.
> >>>>
> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/bylaws-amend-gac-advice-2014-08-15-en
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> > The public comment forum is here
> >>>>
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> > Might be good for people to weigh in, individually and/or collectively.
> >>>> Michael Geist offers an initial take on this,
> >>>>
> http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2014/08/government-control-internet-governance-icann-proposes-giving-gac-increased-power-board-decisions/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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