<div dir="ltr">There is a comment to this post in CircleId which refers to "corruption":<div><a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140814_call_for_icann_to_educate_and_not_mislead_gac/#10183">http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140814_call_for_icann_to_educate_and_not_mislead_gac/#10183</a></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Avri Doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi,<br>
<br>
I read the article. I think he exaggerates the danger.<br>
<br>
I tend to think it wont make much difference because the board pretty<br>
much works on consensus these days, holding off on voes until rough<br>
consensus is reached. I.e they already work to a higher standard.<br>
<br>
I argue pretty much everywhere for an equal footing standard. The Board<br>
needs to be the one balancing out the various voices in the decsions<br>
while remaining accountable to all of the SOAC groupings.<br>
<br>
The thing that bothers me the most on this is that this leaves the other<br>
ACs in a subordinate position, i.e still not on an equal footing.<br>
<br>
As for us fighting it, I am not in favor of spending a lot of energy on<br>
this. In the GNSO the voice of business predominates (3SG : 1SG), i.e.<br>
we have a minority position. How much energy do we wish to put into<br>
fighting for the supremacy of pro-commercial decision making?<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
avri<br>
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On 19-Aug-14 08:23, Kathy Kleiman wrote:<br>
> Hi All,<br>
> I think it may make GAC much more powerful -- essentially a veto over<br>
> the GNSO process (and the other supporting organizations as well).<br>
> Michael Geist's article on this is good --<br>
> <a href="http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2014/08/government-control-internet-governance-icann-proposes-giving-gac-increased-power-board-decisions/" target="_blank">http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2014/08/government-control-internet-governance-icann-proposes-giving-gac-increased-power-board-decisions/</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> I think we should think hard about opposing...<br>
> Best,<br>
> Kathy<br>
><br>
><br>
</div><div class="im HOEnZb">> Hi,<br>
><br>
> What it essentially does is put GAC on an equal footing with GNSO,<br>
> ccNSO and maybe ASO.<br>
><br>
> avri<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 18-Aug-14 22:50, William Drake wrote:<br>
>>>> Hi<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Well this is interesting. ICANN’s proposing a bylaws change that<br>
>>>> would would require 2/3 of the voting members of the Board to vote<br>
>>>> to act inconsistently with a piece of GAC advice. Currently, the<br>
>>>> Bylaws require a simple majority of the Board.<br>
>>>> <a href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/bylaws-amend-gac-advice-2014-08-15-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/bylaws-amend-gac-advice-2014-08-15-en</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
> The public comment forum is here<br>
>>>> <a href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/" target="_blank">http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
> Might be good for people to weigh in, individually and/or collectively.<br>
>>>> Michael Geist offers an initial take on this,<br>
>>>> <a href="http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2014/08/government-control-internet-governance-icann-proposes-giving-gac-increased-power-board-decisions/" target="_blank">http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2014/08/government-control-internet-governance-icann-proposes-giving-gac-increased-power-board-decisions/</a><br>
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