[NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Statement on PRISM?

[Marc Perkel]

If not us who? If not now when?

We don't really have the luxury of pretending that the role of ICANN is 
limited to names and numbers. The NSA issue is making the issue of 
governing the internet something we have to deal with. ICANN really has 
the only infrastructue on the planet to deal with it. You can't use the 
UN because the US has veto power.

The nature of the Internet is that it is growing exponentially. The 
Internet is the center of human evolution. The Internet is central to 
humanity. The Internet is humanity's collective brain. It is crucial to 
the future of human evolution.

The United States is making a move to seize control of the internet. We 
can not let that happen. I don't know if the US is in some sort of 
mental breakdown or if there's a back story we don't know about but we 
are the people who are in the right place at the right time. Think of us 
being on an airplane that is about to crash and we're the ones who 
happened to be seated in front of the side exit. It's up to us to make 
it happen.

For the last couple of months I've been working on the philosophical 
foundation for world government arising out of ICANN. So far no one is 
really taking this seriously but it's time to wake up and read it.

http://icannwiki.com/index.php/Philosophy

The way I see it we can either step up or suffer the consequences of not 
stepping up. I think we should step up.

On 10/26/2013 6:12 AM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>
> I believe that this subject is completely out of the scope of ICANN, 
> NCUC, NCSG, *, you really need to find the appropriate forum to 
> discuss the constitutionality of all these garbage.
>
> My .02.
>
> Jorge
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Rudi Rusdiah <rusdiah at rad.net.id 
> <mailto:rusdiah at rad.net.id>> wrote:
>
>     It is sad if obama ruled out the American Constitution, it will
>     become the wild wild west of the Information age and society...
>     its a pity that we have to experienced Orwelian big brother 1984
>
>     rgds, rudi rusdiah
>
>     On 06/10/2013 11:11 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
>>     Here's an article I wrote about government spying.
>>
>>     http://gilroy.patch.com/groups/marc-perkels-blog/p/why-do-i-care-abut-government-spying-i-have-nothing-to-hide
>>
>>
>>       Why do I care about government spying? I have nothing to hide.
>>
>>
>>     In response to government spying on all our phone calls some
>>     people have said to me, "Why do I care about government spying? I
>>     have nothing to hide. So what if the government is tapping into
>>     everything we do?" Obama says, "We're going to have to make some
>>     choices as a society."
>>
>>
>>     The 4th Amendment of the Constitution says.*"The right of the
>>     people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
>>     effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
>>     violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
>>     supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
>>     place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."*
>>     Obama is saying that a secret court has determined that all
>>     Verizon customers are criminal suspects, including me. That is
>>     just plain crazy on its face.
>>
>>     Obama and every member of Congress took an oath that includes,*"I
>>     do solemnly swear that I will ... preserve, protect and defend
>>     the Constitution of the United States."* That oath has now been
>>     broken by the President and every member of Congress that
>>     supports government by secret courts and secret laws.
>>
>>     So an answer like "I have nothing to hide.", misses the point. I
>>     don't recall anything in the Constitution that says that you can
>>     amend the Constitution by deciding to ignore it. I don't recall a
>>     rule that says that if a Republican president and a Democrat
>>     president both break the same law then the law becomes nullified.
>>     Obama and the Congress have effectively suspended the Constitution.
>>
>>     What they are doing is declaring that the Constitution itself,
>>     the document upon which all laws are founded, is void. Obama and
>>     Congress have declared that the rule of law no longer applies in
>>     America. Without the rule of law and the Constitution the America
>>     we knew no longer exists. It is wrong and it rises to the level
>>     of treason against the Constitution.
>>
>>
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