[NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC Statement on PRISM?
Timothe Litt
litt at acm.org
Sun Jun 9 02:21:12 CEST 2013
> iven the chilling effect the revelations of the NSA's conduct may have
> regarding personal liberties on the internet, should we look to issue
> a statement on this type of behavior by governments?
No. It's not an ICANN issue. It's purely a US government issue. That
some of the data originates on the internet is not the core issue.
If NCUC wants to be effective, we should be careful about which battles
we take on. Otherwise we risk being marginalized as complainers about
everything. Or we try to push ICANN into a governmental role - which it
is singularly unsuited for.
By all means take it up with civil liberties groups that you belong to,
and if you're in the US, your congress-people. (Who, by the way, wrote
the enabling legislation, were all briefed on the programs - and only
now, when it came to light, are 'shocked, truly shocked' by the
consequences. That however, is politics. Not in NCUC's domain.)
Timothe Litt
ACM Distinguished Engineer
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This communication may not represent the ACM or my employer's views,
if any, on the matters discussed.
This communication may not represent my employer's views,
if any, on the matters discussed.
On 08-Jun-13 20:08, Michael Haffely wrote:
>
> Given the chilling effect the revelations of the NSA's conduct may
> have regarding personal liberties on the internet, should we look to
> issue a statement on this type of behavior by governments?
>
> On Jun 5, 2013 7:59 AM, "William Drake" <william.drake at uzh.ch
> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> At the ICANN meeting in Durban, NCUC
>
> 1. will do an outreach event in the context of the African School
> on Internet Governance on the afternoon of Friday 12 July.
>
> 2. will sponsor a reception/dinner after the school. This will
> be organized by the Association for Progressive Communications,
> and I guess be like the APC parties held at the annual global IGF
> meetings, maybe @ 50-60 people milling around eating and drinking
> at a restaurant near the school event.
>
> 3. has applied to organize a workshop on closed generics within
> the main ICANN program.
>
> 4. is talking to some government representatives, as well at the
> ATRT team, about meeting with us on Constituency Day, Tuesday 16th.
>
> It would help a great deal in deciding how to take these
> activities forward if I knew who from NCUC will be able to attend
> in Durban. In particular, I really need an accurate head count to
> give the restaurant for the reception/dinner. I would therefore
> greatly appreciate it if people could be in touch and let me know
> if they are coming to Durban, and if so on what date and whether
> they can attend the Friday events.
>
> Thanks much,
>
> Bill
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2013, at 11:45 AM, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch
> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Further to my previous messages, this is the event at which NCUC
>> will be doing an outreach session & reception. NCUC members from
>> Africa may wish to consider applying...
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> *From: *Anriette Esterhuysen <anriette at apc.org
>>> <mailto:anriette at apc.org>>
>>> *Subject: **[governance] African School on IG: call for
>>> applications*
>>> *Date: *June 3, 2013 11:27:33 AM GMT+02:00
>>> *To: *"governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>> <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>"
>>> <governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>> <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>>
>>> *Reply-To: *governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>> <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>,Anriette Esterhuysen
>>> <anriette at apc.org <mailto:anriette at apc.org>>
>>>
>>> Dear all
>>>
>>> I am very pleased to be announcing the call for applications for the
>>> first African School on Internet Governance (ASIG) scheduled to take
>>> place from 10-12 July, immediately prior to the ICANN meeting in
>>> Durban
>>> South Africa. Thanks to the many people - including those on on this
>>> list - who have contributed the input and support that managed
>>> to get us
>>> to the point of being able to launch ASIG next month.
>>>
>>> Details below and in the attached PDF. Please distribute widely.
>>>
>>> Anriette
>>>
>>> *Call for Applications to Participate in the First African School on
>>> Internet Governance in Durban South Africa, July 2013*
>>>
>>> The Association for Progressive Communications (APC) and the NEPAD
>>> Planning and Coordinating Agency--e-Africa Programme are pleased to
>>> announce the call for applications for the first African School on
>>> Internet Governance to be held in Durban, South Africa, from
>>> 10-12 July
>>> 2013.
>>>
>>> Internet Governance (IG) is usually defined as the development and
>>> application, by governments, the private sector, and civil
>>> society of
>>> principles, policies, norms, rules, decision-making procedures, and
>>> programmes that shape the evolution and use of the internet.
>>> While few
>>> contest the definition itself, the respective roles, responsibility,
>>> power and influence of various stakeholder groups continue to be the
>>> subject of intense debate. Also contested is the institutional
>>> ecosystem
>>> within which decisions that impact on the internet are being
>>> made, as
>>> well as the principles on which such governance should be based.
>>>
>>> What is not contested is that (a) IG is complex and and
>>> participating
>>> effectively in IG processes is not easy, (b) African
>>> participation in
>>> IG, be it in technical, social or political spheres, is
>>> insufficient and
>>> (b) few African countries have established sustainable open and
>>> inclusive policy discussion forums where government, civil society,
>>> businesses and technical people are able to interact effectively and
>>> collaborate to develop consistent national and institutional
>>> strategies
>>> aimed at mobilising the internet for economic, social, political and
>>> cultural development.
>>>
>>> The first Summer School on IG <http://www.euro-ssig.eu/> (SSIG)
>>> was held
>>> in Europe in Meissen in July 2007. It has become an annual event
>>> and has
>>> given rise to the South School on IG
>>> <http://www.gobernanzainternet.org/> held annually in Latin
>>> America for
>>> the last four years and an Asia Pacific school that took place
>>> in 2011.
>>> The African School on IG will build on their experience but
>>> customise
>>> session content to meet the needs of African IG interest groups.
>>> We will
>>> utilise the expertise that exists within the continent as well
>>> as that
>>> of international academics and practitioners in the field.
>>> Topics to be
>>> covered include:
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> History and overview of IG
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> Policy, development and human rights
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> Regulation and management: standards, protocols, gTLDs, ccTLDs,
>>> internet intermediaries
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> Multi-stakeholder approaches to IG: roles and processes,
>>> challenges
>>> and opportunities
>>>
>>>
>>> APC/NPCA can support two groups of successful applicants:
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> Those who are already planning to come to ICANN47
>>> <http://meetings.icann.org/ICANN47> but who would need to arrive
>>> earlier to attend the School (accommodation and meals)
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> Those who are not currently planning to come to ICANN47 but
>>> who want
>>> to participate in the school (travel, visas and meals and
>>> accommodation for the duration of the School)
>>>
>>> The organisers of the School are not able to support
>>> accommodation and
>>> other costs for particpation in ICANN47, only for participation
>>> in the
>>> African School on IG.
>>>
>>>
>>> To apply please fill in the form at *http://tw.gs/Q7uehW*by *12 June
>>> 2013*. For more information contact *emilar at apc.org
>>> <mailto:emilar at apc.org>*
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>> anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org <mailto:anriette at apc.org>
>>> executive director, association for progressive communications
>>> www.apc.org <http://www.apc.org/>
>>> po box 29755, melville 2109
>>> south africa
>>> tel/fax +27 11 726 1692 <tel:%2B27%2011%20726%201692>
>>>
>> <Call for Applications AfriIG_31052013.pdf>
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>> **********************************************************
>> William J. Drake
>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>> University of Zurich, Switzerland
>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
>> ICANN, www.ncuc.org <http://www.ncuc.org/>
>> william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>
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> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
> University of Zurich, Switzerland
> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
> ICANN, www.ncuc.org <http://www.ncuc.org>
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