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<blockquote type="cite">iven the chilling effect the revelations
of the NSA's conduct may have regarding personal liberties on
the internet, should we look to issue a statement on this type
of behavior by governments?</blockquote>
No. It's not an ICANN issue. It's purely a US government issue.
That some of the data originates on the internet is not the core
issue. <br>
<br>
If NCUC wants to be effective, we should be careful about which
battles we take on. Otherwise we risk being marginalized as
complainers about everything. Or we try to push ICANN into a
governmental role - which it is singularly unsuited for.<br>
<br>
By all means take it up with civil liberties groups that you
belong to, and if you're in the US, your congress-people. (Who,
by the way, wrote the enabling legislation, were all briefed on
the programs - and only now, when it came to light, are 'shocked,
truly shocked' by the consequences. That however, is politics.
Not in NCUC's domain.)<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Timothe Litt
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">This communication may not represent my employer's views,
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On 08-Jun-13 20:08, Michael Haffely wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CANrQg1sq53UvoebudkgCo=7Z0WJbNBLygKtf5UYOkKzwZx3GoQ@mail.gmail.com"
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<p dir="ltr">Given the chilling effect the revelations of the
NSA's conduct may have regarding personal liberties on the
internet, should we look to issue a statement on this type of
behavior by governments?</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 5, 2013 7:59 AM, "William Drake"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hello
<div><br>
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<div>At the ICANN meeting in Durban, NCUC</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1. will do an outreach event in the context of
the African School on Internet Governance on the afternoon
of Friday 12 July.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2. will sponsor a reception/dinner after the school.
This will be organized by the Association for Progressive
Communications, and I guess be like the APC parties held
at the annual global IGF meetings, maybe @ 50-60 people
milling around eating and drinking at a restaurant near
the school event. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>3. has applied to organize a workshop on closed
generics within the main ICANN program.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>4. is talking to some government representatives, as
well at the ATRT team, about meeting with us on
Constituency Day, Tuesday 16th.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It would help a great deal in deciding how to take
these activities forward if I knew who from NCUC will be
able to attend in Durban. In particular, I really need an
accurate head count to give the restaurant for
the reception/dinner. I would therefore greatly
appreciate it if people could be in touch and let me know
if they are coming to Durban, and if so on what date and
whether they can attend the Friday events.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks much,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bill</div>
<div><br>
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<div><br>
<div>
<div>On Jun 3, 2013, at 11:45 AM, William Drake <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Further to my previous messages, this is the
event at which NCUC will be doing an outreach
session & reception. NCUC members from Africa
may wish to consider applying…
<div>
<br>
</div>
<div>Best,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bill<br>
<div><br>
<div>Begin forwarded message:</div>
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style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span
style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><b>From: </b></span><span
style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium">Anriette Esterhuysen
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:anriette@apc.org"
target="_blank">anriette@apc.org</a>><br>
</span></div>
<div
style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span
style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><b>Subject: </b></span><span
style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium"><b>[governance] African
School on IG: call for applications</b><br>
</span></div>
<div
style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span
style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><b>Date: </b></span><span
style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium">June 3, 2013 11:27:33
AM GMT+02:00<br>
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<div
style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span
style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><b>To: </b></span><span
style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium">"<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org"
target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org"
target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>><br>
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style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span
style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org"
target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>,Anriette
Esterhuysen <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:anriette@apc.org"
target="_blank">anriette@apc.org</a>><br>
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<div>Dear all<br>
<br>
I am very pleased to be announcing the
call for applications for the<br>
first African School on Internet
Governance (ASIG) scheduled to take<br>
place from 10-12 July, immediately prior
to the ICANN meeting in Durban<br>
South Africa. Thanks to the many people -
including those on on this<br>
list - who have contributed the input and
support that managed to get us<br>
to the point of being able to launch ASIG
next month.<br>
<br>
Details below and in the attached PDF.
Please distribute widely.<br>
<br>
Anriette<br>
<br>
*Call for Applications to Participate in
the First African School on<br>
Internet Governance in Durban South
Africa, July 2013*<br>
<br>
The Association for Progressive
Communications (APC) and the NEPAD<br>
Planning and Coordinating Agency–e-Africa
Programme are pleased to<br>
announce the call for applications for the
first African School on<br>
Internet Governance to be held in Durban,
South Africa, from 10-12 July<br>
2013.<br>
<br>
Internet Governance (IG) is usually
defined as the development and<br>
application, by governments, the private
sector, and civil society of<br>
principles, policies, norms, rules,
decision-making procedures, and<br>
programmes that shape the evolution and
use of the internet. While few<br>
contest the definition itself, the
respective roles, responsibility,<br>
power and influence of various stakeholder
groups continue to be the<br>
subject of intense debate. Also contested
is the institutional ecosystem<br>
within which decisions that impact on the
internet are being made, as<br>
well as the principles on which such
governance should be based.<br>
<br>
What is not contested is that (a) IG is
complex and and participating<br>
effectively in IG processes is not easy,
(b) African participation in<br>
IG, be it in technical, social or
political spheres, is insufficient and<br>
(b) few African countries have established
sustainable open and<br>
inclusive policy discussion forums where
government, civil society,<br>
businesses and technical people are able
to interact effectively and<br>
collaborate to develop consistent national
and institutional strategies<br>
aimed at mobilising the internet for
economic, social, political and<br>
cultural development.<br>
<br>
The first Summer School on IG <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.euro-ssig.eu/"
target="_blank">http://www.euro-ssig.eu/</a>>
(SSIG) was held<br>
in Europe in Meissen in July 2007. It has
become an annual event and has<br>
given rise to the South School on IG<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.gobernanzainternet.org/"
target="_blank">http://www.gobernanzainternet.org/</a>>
held annually in Latin America for<br>
the last four years and an Asia Pacific
school that took place in 2011.<br>
The African School on IG will build on
their experience but customise<br>
session content to meet the needs of
African IG interest groups. We will<br>
utilise the expertise that exists within
the continent as well as that<br>
of international academics and
practitioners in the field. Topics to be<br>
covered include:<br>
<br>
*<br>
<br>
History and overview of IG<br>
<br>
*<br>
<br>
Policy, development and human rights<br>
<br>
*<br>
<br>
Regulation and management: standards,
protocols, gTLDs, ccTLDs,<br>
internet intermediaries<br>
<br>
*<br>
<br>
Multi-stakeholder approaches to IG:
roles and processes, challenges<br>
and opportunities<br>
<br>
<br>
APC/NPCA can support two groups of
successful applicants:<br>
<br>
*<br>
<br>
Those who are already planning to come
to ICANN47<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://meetings.icann.org/ICANN47"
target="_blank">http://meetings.icann.org/ICANN47</a>>
but who would need to arrive<br>
earlier to attend the School
(accommodation and meals)<br>
<br>
*<br>
<br>
Those who are not currently planning to
come to ICANN47 but who want<br>
to participate in the school (travel,
visas and meals and<br>
accommodation for the duration of the
School)<br>
<br>
The organisers of the School are not able
to support accommodation and<br>
other costs for particpation in ICANN47,
only for participation in the<br>
African School on IG.<br>
<br>
<br>
To apply please fill in the form at *<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://tw.gs/Q7uehW*by"
target="_blank">http://tw.gs/Q7uehW*by</a>
*12 June<br>
2013*. For more information contact *<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:emilar@apc.org"
target="_blank">emilar@apc.org</a>*<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
------------------------------------------------------<br>
anriette esterhuysen <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:anriette@apc.org"
target="_blank">anriette@apc.org</a><br>
executive director, association for
progressive communications<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.apc.org/"
target="_blank">www.apc.org</a><br>
po box 29755, melville 2109<br>
south africa<br>
tel/fax <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B27%2011%20726%201692"
value="+27117261692" target="_blank">+27
11 726 1692</a><br>
<br>
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<span><Call for Applications
AfriIG_31052013.pdf></span>
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