[NCSG-Discuss] Closed Generics are Against the Rules

Evan Leibovitch evan at TELLY.ORG
Wed Feb 27 00:21:43 CET 2013


https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/New+SOIs

Hope this helps.

- Evan


On 26 February 2013 18:04, Kristina Macaulay <kristinamac at mac.com> wrote:

> Hi Robin,
>
> The SOI are for those only on the GNSO.
> Somehow I've not been issued one, nor is there instructions how to receive
> one.
> As you can not complete the form without a SOI, please advise.
>
> Warmly,
>
> Kristina Macaulay
>
> On 26 Feb 2013, at 03:05, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:
>
> It is great to see robust debate on this list on a pending policy matter.
>  And I'd like to encourage those members who have an opinion in this debate
> to consider working on a public comment to file to ICANN on the matter.
>
> A reminder however, that those NCSG members wishing to submit pubic
> comments or otherwise advocate positions in the arena should fill-out
> ICANN's standard "Statement of Interest" Form<https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/New+SOIs> and
> disclose any commercial interest one may have on the commented issue.
>  These "SOI's" are also required to be filled-out by anyone participating
> in an ICANN Working Group or other policy debate as part of ICANN's
> commitment to transparency.
>
> Thanks!
> Robin
>
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Nicolas Adam wrote:
>
>
> They should try co.caine
>
> or the obvious .blow
>
> or .patente (than it'd be the flour mills that would panic)
>
> or cocaine.com, cocaine.co, cocaine.pe, cocaine.snifs, cocaine.whiffs,
> cocaine.goodforyou, .... .
>
> I am quite against colonizing/enclosing generic words and languages within
> closed legal system, and I frequently oppose IP's settling attempt into
> languages here in the dns, but I also *trust* languages/signs to evolve and
> be diverse and strong.
>
> That is, of course, if we let it be strong and not say, say, that co.caine
> is too similar to .cocaine ....
>
> So my humble suggestion, let a thousand [saussurian] signifier bloom.
>
>
> Nicolas
>
>
>
> On 2/25/2013 4:56 PM, Alex Gakuru wrote:
>
> And wonder if the US southerly neighbours successfully registered .cocaine
> (if they had a chance in hell) whether big pharma would be told, "where
> were you late when it was registered? Just go on and register .
> benzoylmethylecgonine ?" rules/arguments would be "adjusted"?
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Nicolas Adam <nickolas.adam at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On 2/24/2013 12:44 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> In which case, if I really wanted honey for some reason I would apply
>>> for .miele or .דבש or .asali
>>>
>>> or register  honey.shop or honey.coop  or honey.ri.us or honey.eat or
>>> honey.farm or honey.food or .....
>>>
>>
>>  Yes, yes, and yes. Otherwise, it's just one big free public trust of
>> strings, whose use needs to be planned and centralized, entailing endless
>> (and random) specific adjudication.
>>
>> As for generic word capture: language(s) is (are) big. Many ways to talk
>> about miel.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I do  not see the point of arguing about what content someone allows in
>>> their gTLD.  And to me this largely comes down to a content issue.  We are
>>> saying that everyone has a right to put content under the TLD .honey.  And
>>> I just don't see it.
>>>
>>> I also see it as an association issue.  Why does ICANN have authority to
>>> tell a gTLD owner who they must associate with, i.e who they must allow to
>>> use the gTLD they have been allocated.
>>>
>>> As I said, I think the gulf between the two positions is quite wide.
>>>
>>> avri
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 Feb 2013, at 18:12, Alex Gakuru wrote:
>>>
>>>  But Avri,
>>>>
>>>> Let's take honey, for example. Someone registers the word to the
>>>> exclusion of everyone else in the domain name space. Surely honey is
>>>> harvested at many places around the world, therefore *all* somewhere.honey
>>>> equally deserve registration with whomever rushed to grab the word. Else
>>>> would mean advocating for English to be now considered as a proprietary
>>>> language.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>
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