[NCSG-Discuss] AW: [NCSG-Discuss] WEF Background Paper

Carl Smith lectriclou at HOTMAIL.COM
Mon Feb 4 16:48:57 CET 2013


Yes Andrei,

This is an eminent problem.  I myself have tried to add as much security 
to my system as my knowledge can provide but there are so many 
vulnerable holes in computers.  One that is now becoming known is PNP 
hacks.  Malevolence in the world will be an on going foe.  IP blockers 
and virus scanners are only the basics.  I have not seen the threat of 
IPV6 addressed at all.

Lou

On 2/4/2013 2:51 AM, Andrei Barburas wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Regarding the invasion of privacy and apps that upload your contacts 
> to a crowdsourced database...
>
> I strongly believe that we should create the opportunity to educate 
> people regarding what they can and cannot do in order for their 
> privacy to be "safe"; here I am not talking about governments, I am 
> talking about organizations that develop such apps.
>
> On the other hand, it is also important to know and realize that even 
> if I am careful with what I share, that doesn't mean that my 
> friends/colleagues/buddies are as careful as I am.
>
> Have an excellent week ahead!
>
>
>
> *Andrei Barburas*
>
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>
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> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Carl Smith <lectriclou at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:lectriclou at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     It's good to hear some positive news.
>
>     Thanks to all for the hard work.  Let's keep the momentum moving
>     forward.
>
>     Lou
>
>
>     On 2/3/2013 4:01 AM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote:
>
>         Hi Alain,
>           I want to join Avri in her positive comment on the outcome
>         of the LA meeting. On the one hand it was crazy to sit 30
>         hours in planes for 20 hours of meetings & briefings. However
>         it was worth and has helped to create a much more constructive
>         collaborative climate between the two SGs, within our own SG
>         community and with ICANN Staff.
>           I want to congratulate you also for your outreach plan. As
>         already discussed with Klaus, I see here a lot of potential to
>         bring expertise both from NPOC and NCUC together to strengthen
>         our SG as a whole, in particular with the practical projects
>         as papers, webinars and workshops/conferences.
>           My concrete proposal is - and I made this already before I
>         saw your paper in our NCUC meeting  - to organize a monthly
>         NCSG webinar (in cooperation with ICANN Staff to use their
>         facilities) on ICANN related policy issues which would be open
>         for the whole ICANN community (and beyond). We could agree
>         until Beijng on a list of ten themes (and lecturers) for
>         2013/2014 and announce this with concrete dates during the
>         Public Forum. I would volunteer to give a webinar in fall 2013
>         on "WCIT, WTPF, WTDC: Can ICANN and ITU develop a constructive
>         collaboration in the Internet Governance Eco-System?"
>           We could agree also on a joint paper series as a follow up
>         to your project with UNCTAD.
>           We should also start to think about joint workshop proposals
>         for IGF in Bali (and probably for regional IGFs as EURODIG in
>         Lisbon in June) to bring issues of special interests for
>         non-commercial users to the agenda and to link more NGOs to
>         the process. I hope also that Klaus engagement in the German
>         IGF (June 3) will be useful at the national level.
>           Best wishes
>           wolfgang
>
>         ________________________________
>
>         Von: NCSG-Discuss im Auftrag von Avri Doria
>         Gesendet: Sa 02.02.2013 20:52
>         An: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>         <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
>         Betreff: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] WEF Background Paper
>
>
>
>         Hi Alain.
>
>         I agree, the meeting was quite good for both the NCSG and
>         bring all of the all of its NCU/NGO/NFP/academic&activist
>          participants together.
>
>         I also like the view we were able to get of how ICANN is
>         changing and of the direction in which Fadi seems to be facing.
>
>         I also appreciated some of bits of agreement that we were able
>         to reach with the other Non Contract Party SG.  I even
>         appreciated the clarity with which some areas of agreement and
>          disagreement we have with some of the constituencies in the
>         CSG were able to be discussed.
>
>         It was a good trip.
>
>         Of course we probably also owe this list a more comprehensive
>         report.  Maybe our leaders can work together to produce one.
>
>         avri
>
>         On 2 Feb 2013, at 08:48, Alain Berranger wrote:
>
>             Thanks Kathy,
>
>             It was a good meeting. For me it was about an opportunity
>             to start some NPOC team building. Secondly, it was the
>             very first time in my opininon that NCSG leadership came
>             together and a climate of trust clearly set in so that
>             from here on we will together move the non-commercial
>             issues forward. We have a lot of work to do together, for
>              instance getting NGO/NFP Engagement on the same level at
>             ICANN as Government Engagement and Business Engagement.
>             With the NCSG getting its act together, we have removed a
>             barrier to ICANN creating a dedicated senior post for
>             NGO/NPF Engagement.
>             Also, the LA meeting was an opportunity to reach to CSG
>             and its Constituencies leadership and to establish perhaps
>             that a win for one side is not always a loss for the other
>             and that NCHP has a role to play in advancing a number of
>             higher level debates to make ICANN stronger in the end.
>
>             Alain
>
>             On Friday, February 1, 2013, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>             Hi All,
>             I have not yet read the attached paper, but it is a
>             background paper that Fadi received at the World Economic
>             Forum in Davos.  Fadi was in a meeting on user data and
>             privacy, and found himself speaking for users (those whose
>             data is captured). Hooray!
>
>             A good intersessional meeting in LA.  A new experiment on
>             having the Noncommercial and Commercial meet together for
>             meetings on both policy issues, and administrative issues
>             (for growth and operation of our Stakeholder and
>             constituency groups). I hope others will comment. I found
>             it very valuable -- and think we have a great NCSG team!
>
>             Best,
>             Kathy
>
>
>

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