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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Yes Andrei,<br>
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This is an eminent problem. I myself have tried to add as much
security to my system as my knowledge can provide but there are so
many vulnerable holes in computers. One that is now becoming
known is PNP hacks. Malevolence in the world will be an on going
foe. IP blockers and virus scanners are only the basics. I have
not seen the threat of IPV6 addressed at all.<br>
<br>
Lou <br>
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On 2/4/2013 2:51 AM, Andrei Barburas wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Regarding the invasion of
privacy and apps that upload your contacts to a crowdsourced
database...</font></div>
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<div style=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif">I strongly
believe that we should create the opportunity to educate
people regarding what they can and cannot do in order for
their privacy to be "safe"; here I am not talking about
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<div style=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif">On the other
hand, it is also important to know and realize that even if
I am careful with what I share, that doesn't mean that my
friends/colleagues/buddies are as careful as I am.</font></div>
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week ahead!</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Carl
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It's good to hear some positive news.<br>
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Thanks to all for the hard work. Let's keep the momentum
moving forward.<br>
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Lou
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On 2/3/2013 4:01 AM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote:<br>
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Hi Alain,<br>
I want to join Avri in her positive comment on the
outcome of the LA meeting. On the one hand it was
crazy to sit 30 hours in planes for 20 hours of
meetings & briefings. However it was worth and has
helped to create a much more constructive
collaborative climate between the two SGs, within our
own SG community and with ICANN Staff.<br>
I want to congratulate you also for your outreach
plan. As already discussed with Klaus, I see here a
lot of potential to bring expertise both from NPOC and
NCUC together to strengthen our SG as a whole, in
particular with the practical projects as papers,
webinars and workshops/conferences.<br>
My concrete proposal is - and I made this already
before I saw your paper in our NCUC meeting - to
organize a monthly NCSG webinar (in cooperation with
ICANN Staff to use their facilities) on ICANN related
policy issues which would be open for the whole ICANN
community (and beyond). We could agree until Beijng on
a list of ten themes (and lecturers) for 2013/2014 and
announce this with concrete dates during the Public
Forum. I would volunteer to give a webinar in fall
2013 on "WCIT, WTPF, WTDC: Can ICANN and ITU develop a
constructive collaboration in the Internet Governance
Eco-System?"<br>
We could agree also on a joint paper series as a
follow up to your project with UNCTAD.<br>
We should also start to think about joint workshop
proposals for IGF in Bali (and probably for regional
IGFs as EURODIG in Lisbon in June) to bring issues of
special interests for non-commercial users to the
agenda and to link more NGOs to the process. I hope
also that Klaus engagement in the German IGF (June 3)
will be useful at the national level.<br>
Best wishes<br>
wolfgang<br>
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Von: NCSG-Discuss im Auftrag von Avri Doria<br>
Gesendet: Sa 02.02.2013 20:52<br>
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Betreff: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] WEF Background Paper<br>
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Hi Alain.<br>
<br>
I agree, the meeting was quite good for both the NCSG
and bring all of the all of its
NCU/NGO/NFP/academic&activist participants
together.<br>
<br>
I also like the view we were able to get of how ICANN
is changing and of the direction in which Fadi seems
to be facing.<br>
<br>
I also appreciated some of bits of agreement that we
were able to reach with the other Non Contract Party
SG. I even appreciated the clarity with which some
areas of agreement and disagreement we have with some
of the constituencies in the CSG were able to be
discussed.<br>
<br>
It was a good trip.<br>
<br>
Of course we probably also owe this list a more
comprehensive report. Maybe our leaders can work
together to produce one.<br>
<br>
avri<br>
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On 2 Feb 2013, at 08:48, Alain Berranger wrote:<br>
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Thanks Kathy,<br>
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It was a good meeting. For me it was about an
opportunity to start some NPOC team building.
Secondly, it was the very first time in my opininon
that NCSG leadership came together and a climate of
trust clearly set in so that from here on we will
together move the non-commercial issues forward. We
have a lot of work to do together, for instance
getting NGO/NFP Engagement on the same level at
ICANN as Government Engagement and Business
Engagement. With the NCSG getting its act together,
we have removed a barrier to ICANN creating a
dedicated senior post for NGO/NPF Engagement.<br>
Also, the LA meeting was an opportunity to reach to
CSG and its Constituencies leadership and to
establish perhaps that a win for one side is not
always a loss for the other and that NCHP has a role
to play in advancing a number of higher level
debates to make ICANN stronger in the end.<br>
<br>
Alain<br>
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On Friday, February 1, 2013, Kathy Kleiman wrote:<br>
Hi All,<br>
I have not yet read the attached paper, but it is a
background paper that Fadi received at the World
Economic Forum in Davos. Fadi was in a meeting on
user data and privacy, and found himself speaking
for users (those whose data is captured). Hooray!<br>
<br>
A good intersessional meeting in LA. A new
experiment on having the Noncommercial and
Commercial meet together for meetings on both policy
issues, and administrative issues (for growth and
operation of our Stakeholder and constituency
groups). I hope others will comment. I found it very
valuable -- and think we have a great NCSG team!<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Kathy<br>
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