Is terrorism the new child porn

Edward Morris edward.morris at ALUMNI.USC.EDU
Wed Sep 26 12:20:09 CEST 2012


First, not every country does have cyberlaw for their own territory. Many
countries are making it up as they go along.

Two, having two hundred plus laws for every post makes it a bit difficult
to...well, have any post.

Three, Facebook has a real name policy. It has selective enforcement. It
pretty much stinks. That's why I prefer VK as my social media site. Based
in Russia, VK really doesn't try to be a police force.

Bertrand de la Chapelle has a great project exploring some of these issues,
internet and Jurisdiction  ( http://www.internetjurisdiction.net ). He's
concerned, as am I, about social media companies Terms of Service (ToS)
 being de facto Constitutions. Rebecca MacKinnons *Consent of the
Governed*...fantastic
book about, in part,  the danger of rule by private ToS. She's particularly
concerned, as are many of us, about the incremental loss of anonymity
online by things like real name policies...and seemingly proposals like
yours.

Do you by any chance mean "Picture upload should be banned"...I don't think
you are calling for everyone to scan and upload pictures if they have
pornographic contents etc. Although I'd prefer that to the banning option.

Were you aware that pornography is the second most popular use of the
internet (it used to be number one but those social media sites have
replaced them)? Porn users have rights too. I happen to live at times in
jurisdictions that do not have hate crime laws, sharia law and the like.
I'm perfectly happy with the free speech I have there.

Congratulations on Indonesia's Facebook status. Was there a wider point
here? I think of the tens of thousands of Indonesians who bought Lady Gaga
tickets the minute they went on sale in Indonesia...against the tens or
hundreds of people protesting the Innocence of Mohammed.

Your proposal to hold social media sites responsible for content loaded by
it's members is dangerous and must be rejected in whole. That would
effectively end social media as we know it. I would encourage this
Constituency to join me in respectfully rejecting your proposal in it's
entirety.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:21 AM, rusdiah <rusdiah at rad.net.id> wrote:

>  Facebook should enforce their policy:
> 1. Picture upload by a person... the person should be accountable for any
> pictures upload.
> 2. Picture upload should be scanned if it has pornographic contents, child
> pornography, lead to terorism, hatred against race, religions and so on...
>
> Here Facebook should be accountable... where ever they operate..since
> every country now has Cyberlaw for their own territory. Indonesia now ranks
> four of FB user in the world.
> So not only gain profit from advertisement, but also accountable for its
> content loaded by its member.
>
> Regards,
> regards, rudi rusdiah - apwkomitel - indonesia
>
> On 09/25/2012 08:35 PM, Mark Leiser wrote:
>
> I actually wrote about this the other day on my FB page. Frightening. I
> don't know what I expected, but thought more from the fine folks at the
> EU.
> Most puzzling and shocking is the demand that "Social Media Platforms
> should ensure users upload a real picture of themselves"...
>
>  Talk about mission creepy!
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Mark Leiser
>
>  Mark R. Leiser, Phd Student
> School of Law, Humanities & Social Sciences Faculty
> PGR Room, Lord Hope Building
> University of Strathclyde
> 141 St James Road,
> Glasgow G4 0LT
> Scotland
>
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>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Kerry Brown <kerry at kdbsystems.com> wrote:
>
>>  *http://www.edri.org/cleanIT* <http://www.edri.org/cleanIT>
>>
>> It seems that people who want to control the Internet always need an
>> excuse to explain their actions. It used to be that they used stopping
>> child porn. It seems this is changing to fighting terrorism.
>>
>> Kerry Brown
>>
>>
>>
>
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