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[Robin Gross]

I have to take issue with the charge that the consumer constituency
did not get off the ground because of resistance within NCSG.   We
have made lots of room and opportunity for engagement by those
proponents had they picked up the banner and done the work of
creating a constituency.

ICANN staff wrote provisions into the NCSG charter about what is
required of a candidate constituency, and they are not bad criteria.

So please don't try to re-open dead battles against NCSG with untrue
claims about resistance to the consumer constituency from within
NCSG.  That just isn't fair.  And it is hurtful and disruptive - not
something we expect to hear from someone who wants to be a liaison to
NCSG.

Best,
Robin


On Oct 24, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:

> On 24 October 2012 13:00, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>
> There used to be a notion that several would spin out of NCUC as it
> had been the only and omnibus constituency for all Non Commercial
> groups but no longer needed to maintain that function. NCUC serves
> NGOs, advocacy, academia et al, and has participating members of
> every type of NonCommercial.
>
> I think that was the PoV of the people who were trying to create
> the (since abandoned) Consumer Group Constituency a few years ago.
> I was close to (but not a part of) that effort, and found a
> resistance that, at the time, took me by surprise. So long as
> diversity of power within the NCSG is seen as a zero-sum game (ie,
> anything new must come at the expense of influence of the NCUC)
> such resistance will exist. The wearing down of the CGC attempt
> into oblivion (my PoV) has not been good sign to anyone else on the
> outside seeking the diversity that Avri advocates (and with which I
> personally agree).
>
> But any significant moves right now may be temporary anyway, given
> that the upcoming GNSO review can't be put off forever. IMO the
> bicameral structure we have now -- with policy being made inside
> what is essentially a compact between domain sellers and domain
> buyers, to the general exclusion of those outside -- is ripe for
> disruption. And while that specific view is my personal opinion,
> change along these lines is clearly indicated as well in the ALAC
> R3 white paper. I myself eagerly await the GNSO review and
> anticipate that ICANN's advisory bodies will have much to contribute.
>
> As a co-chair of the Future Challenges Working Group, I can state
> that advancing the positive evolution of ICANN's MSM -- including
> within the GNSO -- is most certainly within our scope.
>
> - Evan
>




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