Constituencies was Re: [] . Nomination for …

[Alain Berranger]

Thanks Avri for giving historical context to the question. If we can grow
the NCSG membership as I believe we can and must, then more Constituencies
(based on identity and/or concerns) will prove necessary and  immensely
useful. I say we must, as the true internationalization of ICANN will
require an order or two of magnitude more players in NCSG than we have
now....

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> There used to be a notion that several would spin out of NCUC as it had
> been the only and omnibus constituency for all Non Commercial groups but no
> longer needed to maintain that function. NCUC serves NGOs, advocacy,
> academia et al, and has participating members of every type of
> NonCommercial.   But the structure became such that NCUC might lose too
> much in the effort to spin out, so people have avoided that.
>
> I have always been a pole apart from Milton on this topic and thought of
> NCUC spinning out several constituencies.  I tend to want there to be at
> least 7 constituencies.  I do wish they were somewhat lighter weight, i.e.
> lighter and quicker to form, but that fell were it did.  I actually think
> the process for new constituencies look heavier that it really is.  I like
> the dea of constituencies based on concern as opposed to identity.  Ie. one
> for operational concerns, one for HR advocacy, one for developmental
> issues, one for academic concerns (the Giganet of ICANN), one for ICANN
> reform, ...  Remembering that every NCSG member can, according to our
> charter be a member of 3 constituencies.
>
> I tend to think the having only 2 is the worse of both worlds.  None and
> we can all work together as we did in the old days - caucusing on various
> issues and coming to the various Points of View. Many and we can form
> alliances.  Two tends toward diremption.
>
> avri
>
>
>
> On 24 Oct 2012, at 12:16, Alain Berranger wrote:
>
> > Thanks Milton.
> >
> > So what are you thinking: would you go as far as no more Constituencies?
> no more Stakeholders' Groups? a completely different model based on gTLDs
> communities? What are the practical alternatives to the current model of
> multiple Constituencies in the same SG? I can think of a few myself, but
> nothing short term and until the GNSO management review is completed,
> structures are better left alone, no?
> >
> > Also, I noted the recent and spontaneous early thinking in Toronto
> during our NCSG meetings (notably by David Cake) about the "real"
> differences between NCUC and NPOC (We have all faced that question -
> Marie-laure and I got it from NPOC's session with the Fellows for
> instance), maybe we should work on that, so that we have a clear message
> out before the inter-sessional and Beijing meetings? Also, how about my
> "old" idea of an Academia Constituency somewhere in the future...? I sensed
> it was not very popular but many other MS organizations use a taxonomy that
> give a specific place to Universities/Academics.
> >
> > Alain
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>
> wrote:
> > OK, thanks Poncelet. So you are not eligible to run for a NCUC position;
> perhaps you can run for the executive committee of the NPOC. So we will
> remove your name from the NCUC nominations.
> >
> > Sorry for the confusion, this is one reason why I am not enthusiastic
> about multiple constituencies in the same SG.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Poncelet Ileleji
> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 5:06 AM
> >
> >
> > To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] NCUC Nomination for Poncelet
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello colleagues,
> >
> >
> >
> > Good day, and thanks for all the feed back, am a member of the NPOC
> constituency and will definitely stick to my membership and role within
> NPOC constituency.
> >
> > Thanks Remmy for the nomination and to other colleagues for all the
> views and feed back shared.
> >
> > Best Wishes
> >
> > Poncelet
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
> > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
> > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
> www.schulich.yorku.ca
> > Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation,
> www.gkpfoundation.org
> > NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
> > Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
> > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
> > Skype: alain.berranger
> >
> >
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Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
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