[governance] ICANNLeaks - Loosing Trust to Maintain the Secrecy

Carlos A. Afonso ca at CAFONSO.CA
Sat Apr 21 14:25:25 CEST 2012


Wow, Milton, this is really amazing. This is not a simple
"implementation mistake". This involved serious breach of privacy of
expensive applications which are part of investment strategies by
business organizations in most cases. There is an obvious liability
issue here involved. It cannot be dismissed as just "a computer form
that did not work as expected", and cannot be left in the hands of the
same staff which caused the problem. And you are not a computer
scientist, you are a political scientist as far as I recall, which
surprises me even more.

And Bill Drake merrily embarks on the dismissing argument, what is going
on with you people? :(

--c.a.

On 04/21/2012 03:54 AM, William Drake wrote:
> I agree.  The governance model has issues, but this is a separate
> matter.  We've just gone through the whole GNSO restructuring,
> ramping up the AoC process, etc.  ICANN doesn't need and probably
> couldn't handle another extended bout of navel-gazing debate about
> reinvention right now.  It needs to let the dust settle for awhile,
> get new leadership in place, get new gTLDs up and running, sort out
> IANA, advance the "internationalization" and outreach efforts, etc.
> Plenty on the plate already.
>
> I can't imagine that the business folks that are laying out big cash
> and maneuvering around new names aren't already screaming about the
> screw up, or that the management won't be compelled to explain what
> happened and assure everyone it hasn't skewed the application process
> for/against anyone.  If there's going to a joint request for info
> from SO/AC chairs or whatever, fine, but it's not obvious to me NCSG
> needs to spend a bunch of cycles on this unless folks are looking for
> something to do.
>
> Bill
>
> On Apr 19, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>
>> I am not sure I agree with the premise that an implementation
>> mistake by the staff constitutes grounds for completely reinventing
>> and rethinking ICANN. Can someone explain the logic of that to me?
>> For example, if the Capitol building of one of the world's first
>> democracies, e.g., the USA, had collapsed due to incompetent
>> construction, would it mean that we should re-think the nature of
>> democracy?
>>
>> I think they need to fix the mistake, fire those responsible, and
>> move on.
>>
>> The root of the problem, to my mind, is not the governance model
>> but, in this order: a) management problems; b) the rube
>> Goldberg-like complexity of the new TLD program, and c) the more
>> than a decade-long delay in accepting a policy, which means that we
>> are dealing with a sudden flood of 1000+ applications rather than a
>> steady trickle of 10 or so a year, and which, like b), is a product
>> of the intense politics swirling around the program.
>>
>> Remember that this has never been done before.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>
>>> ICANN needs to rethink and reorganize itself!
>>>
>


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