NCSG Policy Discussion on 2011-10-18 - a couple of follow-up points

[Alain Berranger]

Bill,

Noted and thanks...

Alain

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:08 AM, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:

> Alain
>
> You misunderstood me.  I didn't say I was puzzled by the terminology "Not
> for Profit Operational Concerns"  per se, having been involved in the
> gestation described by Avri.  I said I was puzzled as to what that was going
> to mean in practice, what distinctive operational concerns the constituency
> would focus on that are not of interest to the non-profits in NCUC.  To
> date, mostly we've heard about trademark protection and related, so the
> question was about what distinctive perspective and contribution would be
> brought to the broader GNSO agenda.
>
> Bill
>
> On Oct 19, 2011, at 11:29 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>
> > On 19 Oct 2011, at 17:12, Alain Berranger wrote:
> >
> >> 2) I think Bill Drake - please correct me if I got the wrong speaker -
> said he was puzzled by the meaning of the terminology "Not for Profit
> Operational Concerns (NPOC)"... In fact, so am I... I recall we had
> originally proposed "Not for Profit Organizations Constituency (NPOC)". The
> latter was rejected by NCSG-EC. Those on the list who were party to this
> "compromise" may explain to the rest of us how that was arrived at and why
> that name was chosen?
> >>
> >
> >
> > All of the organizations in NCUC are also not for profit organizations.
> > So to many at the time, myself included, it looked like a name to try and
> one-up the NCUC and somehow claim that you all were the real
> not-for-profits.
> >
> > So it was an agreement, one of several (like the one where the NPOC
> Leadership agreed that all NPOC members would apply to join the NCSG prior
> to the approval of the constituency and start actually particpating) between
> the NCSG-EC and the NPOC Leadership.
> >
> > It was not imposed by NCSG-EC.  But since NPOC already had collateral
> materials printed with NPOC (or something like that), we were told that
> while they were willing to change the name they wanted to keep the acronym.
>  Hence, Not for Profit Operational Concerns.
> >
> > I was lobbying for Non-Commercial Intelectual Property Constituency and
> there were some other suggestions  (I think Bill had one with the word
> charities in it) but NPOC picked the name, and we were all fine with it
> since it was sufficiently different from Non Commercial Users Constituency.
> >
> > avri
> > historian (ncuc)
>



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