Provisional election Results

Nicolas Adam nickolas.adam at GMAIL.COM
Wed Oct 19 20:41:12 CEST 2011


And to add to all your concerns (and on a lighter note),

please note that if "NPOC leadership" is successful in getting the right 
for the same external (legal) representative to represent many 
member-orgs in NCSG, the balance of power would fall squarely into *my* 
hands:

Debbie's 24 votes + Amber's 44 votes + the 32 already sympathizing,  
gives ME the balance of power.

Food for thought ;)

"//What are we/ going to do tomorrow night?
  The same thing /we/ do every night, we /try to take over the world/!/"


Nicolas,

PS. I believe I could find many, many persons willing to have me 
represent them in NCSG. AND they would answer their emails and confirm 
that I am still their chosen representative at random intervals and at a 
moment's notice without flinching. You can see that this is past 
ridiculous and going nowhere fast.  ....

On 19/10/2011 2:07 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> Timothe
> To add to your concerns, if you check what is supposed to be the NPOC mailing list, you find that this letter has not been discussed, or even posted on their membership list.
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/npoc-voice/
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf
>> Of Timothe Litt
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:34 AM
>> To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Provisional election Results
>>
>> Thanks for providing the results, and for all your efforts in organizing the
>> election.
>>
>> I'm certainly disappointed to see the NPOC appeal - and having reviewed the
>> posted material, am particularly disappointed to see it signed only "NPOC
>> Leadership".  I suppose we can assume that
>> "NONPROFITICANN at usa.redcross.org"
>> implies one of the organizations... but it seems rather unprofessional that
>> "NPOC leadership" didn't sign their names and organizations, nor provide any
>> data as to how many of the NPOC members (or candidate members) support
>> these
>> objections, nor copy their correspondence to this list.  I thought that both
>> transparency and free expression were key values of this group.
>>
>> While I certainly expect differences of opinion on some policy matters, the
>> entire non-commercial community is a disadvantaged minority in the ICANN
>> world with many common issues and concerns that differ from those of the
>> commercial (and better funded) majorities.  Fighting among ourselves and
>> asking external parties to intervene on one side or another only makes us
>> appear weaker and less relevant.  As Ben Franklin said in 1776, "We must all
>> hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."
>>
>> I hope that NPOC leadership (whoever it is) and our new leadership will be
>> able to establish a relationship of mutual respect and trust that enables
>> the community to advance a common agenda where possible, and where it is
>> not, to differ non-destructively.
>>
>> With respect to the issues raised in the appeal:  since NPOC and the EC are
>> at odds, they should be discussed here (and if necessary in a real-time
>> webmeeting or teleconference).  If this does not resolve the issues and
>> there is sufficient support, the 'appeal to the membership' provisions of
>> the charter can be invoked.  But I'm naïve enough to believe that reasonable
>> people of good will can sort this out without such a heavyweight process.
>>
>> Certainly a circular firing squad will only benefit other interests...
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> This communication may not represent my employer's views,
>> if any, on the matters discussed.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf
>> Of Avri
>> Doria
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 06:43
>> To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Provisional election Results
>>
>> To the membership:
>>
>> [...Snip...]
>>
>> I must note, that despite having participated in the nomination process,
>> having submitted statements of candidacy and been listed on the ballot
>> without prior notice or complaint, the NPOC leadership has filed a complaint
>> with the ICANN Board and requested that the vote be suspended and new
>> elections called.
>> The letter to the Board by the NPOC leadership can be found at:
>> <http://info.n4c.eu/sympa/arc/ncsg-ec/2011-10/msg00048.html>
>> while my response to this complaint can be found at:
>> <http://info.n4c.eu/sympa/arc/ncsg-ec/2011-10/msg00049.html>
>>
>> It is my expectation, and hope, that the ICANN Board will choose not to
>> interfere in this election.
>>
>> A copy of this note is filed at:
>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Elections+2011
>>
>> Avri Doria
>> Interim Chair, NCSG
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