for Debbie: Explaining votes made while representing NCSG while on GNSO Council

[Baudouin SCHOMBE]

Your concerns on this point is based. I personally made ​​a lot of
reservations from some organizations of civil society in my country for the
following reasons:
-motivation was not clearly justified;
-local activities, not sufficient to justify the ability of involvement and
participation;
-the total absence in the debates at the local level;

There is so much evidence on which I based to be reluctant.
For this reason we have thought of a technical community platform bringing
together several people with competence in the field of ICT and can discuss the
evolution of the digital environment in the country. We work with
well-structured organizations such as BSD (www.bdscongo.org).

SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN

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2011/10/17 Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>

> These are good observations, Avri. The last point you make:
>
> > Which made me curious about their commitment to membership
>
> Is precisely why we must insist that the organizations themselves apply for
> membership, and not do it through a proxy or aggregator.
> It is not difficult for someone with resources to go out and gin up a list
> of organizations that they say are interested in membership. If I had the
> time, I could come up with a list of 50-or so new organizations that I think
> "ought" to join NCSG and they might even express a vague interest in joining
> when I talk to them on the phone or at a meeting. But unless that
> organization cares enough to submit its own organization through the proper
> channels, it is not a real application. I am not accusing anyone of fake
> applications, I am just saying that they have to do the work of applying
> themselves.
>
> From the beginning of ICANN people have expressed concerns about how civil
> society representation in multistakeholder institutions raises the risk of
> manipulation by interested parties in the guise of civil society entities.
> That is an important and real concern, and our membership admission
> procedures must take it into account. As an NCSG Executive Committee member,
> I will oppose any new member admission that does not come from the
> organization's own representative.
>
> --MM
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf
> > Of Avri Doria
> > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:55 PM
> > To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] for Debbie: Explaining votes made while
> > representing NCSG while on GNSO Council
> >
> > On 14 Oct 2011, at 15:43, Alain Berranger wrote:
> >
> > > Since NCUC leadership is controlling NCSG (approval of NPOC members and
> > its impact on the election process, travel allocation issues, etc...)
> there is not
> > much space for NPOC to debate.
> >
> >
> > I beleive this is a false statement.
> >
> > The NCSG-EC is composed of both NCUC and NPOC.
> > Yes they have yet to learnt to work together, but the NCUC is not
> controlling
> > the NCSG.
> >
> > Even the previous NCSG-EC had an NPOC member on it.
> >
> > And I have been trying to get the NPOC members to join the NCSG for over
> a
> > year, but most refused to do so until they got their constituency.
> > And further, on the vote, of the NPOC members who had been accepted as
> > members, only a few ever bothered to check in, hence like most of the
> > NCUC inactive members, cannot vote.  This has NOTHING to do with the
> > NCSG-EC or allegations of prejudice by NCUC.
> >
> > Which made me curious about their commitment to membership.
> >
> > In my opinion the only reason NPOC is not involved in the debate is
> because
> > the NPOC has not bothered to involve itself in the debate.
> >
> > avri
>
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