NCSG input on request for special privileges for Red Cross & International Olympic Committee regarding Internet domains

[Alain Berranger]

Milton,

Thanks. Has there ever been a study of TLD financial performances? Do you
know of any gTLD cost/benefit study?

Alain

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:

>  Alain****
>
> There is no need to apply for a gTLD to “protect” trademarked brand names.
> The policy allows one to pre-empt/prevent someone else from registering a
> gTLD based on your trademark. In other words, louisvuitton’s refusal to
> apply for . louisvuitton does NOT mean that anyone else can apply for it.
> ****
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> One should apply for a gTLD only if the benefits of having one outweighs
> the costs of applying for and operating it. ****
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> I also don’t understand the idea that so-called “super generic” terms
> should not be claimed by anyone. The idea that having a generic term as a
> gTLD is a “license to print money” is factually false, just ask the .jobs
> people. This whole idea that TLDs constitute automatic riches is a distorted
> but incredibly persistent holdover from the early days, when .com emerged as
> the only space for commercial registrations. That experience will not be
> repeated, yet so many people’s views of TLD economics is shaped by that
> experience. The proliferation of new TLDs radically destroys any such
> repetition. ****
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> --MM****
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> *From:* Alain Berranger [mailto:alain.berranger at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:59 PM
> *To:* Milton L Mueller
> *Cc:* NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG input on request for special privileges
> for Red Cross & International Olympic Committee regarding Internet domains
> ****
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> HI Milton,****
>
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> Are we mainly concerned with second level domain names? as trademarked
> and/or notorious gTLD names are dealt with: if you want to protect a
> valuable resource such as a name - usually trademarked (say Nobel Prize or
> Honda or Louis Vuitton or Apple or Red Cross) then the trademark holding
> body must apply for a corresponding gTLD, which will be used for primary
> purposes say jeanpierre.milan at design.louisvuitton. However, notoriety of a
> given name may not always match the financial robustness needed to apply for
> a gTLD, but that will be the exception, no? I'm not sure though. Is gTLD
> aiming at a single root or a family of similar roots (hence the suggestion
> to stick to strict international treaties nomenclature which I find
> interesting but insufficient)? so what happens to related names such as
> vuitton or vuitton bags or luis vutton... ICANN cannot substitute for INTA,
> WIPO, etc... it must only respect INTA, WIPO, etc... rules and regulations.
> ****
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> Two hard calls: second level domain names with similar roots and also gTLD
> that are "super generic" like .ngo. .intl... which really nobody can claim
> ownership to!... but carry the promise of potentially huge revenues and
> ICANN inadvertently granting or appearing to grant a monopoly or a license
> to print money!****
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> However, a reserve name list approach does not seem the way to go if only
> because of issue of  "where does one draw the line"? Kafkaesque!!!****
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> So in the end, ICANN deals with gTLDs, lawyers with trademarks... the rest
> is open market philosophy in balance with security issues... maybe?
>
> Is this too simplistic? am I missing something? Your views most
> appreciated...****
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> Best, Alain****
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:*
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> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > TLD .olympic, .red-cross, .ngo, .iso, .intl, .iata (variant
> > .aita),  .icao (variant .oaci) and .code should be protected.
> >
>
> Protected from what?
>
> Since when does someone own .ngo? If so, who?
>
> Why .intl? Who has rights in that? Why?
>
> JFC, I believe that the whole attitude here is wrong. I strongly resist the
> idea that we can create fiat global property rights in alphanumeric
> character strings just because someone on an email list thinks it's a good
> idea to "protect" whatever happens to be his or her pet organization. Lets
> try to be more systematic and think about long term consequences, clear
> rules, etc.
>
>
> --MM****
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> ****
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> --
> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA****
>
> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
> ****
>
> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
> Trustee, GKP Foundation, www.globalknowledgepartnership.org
> Vice Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
> Skype: alain.berranger****
>
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Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
Trustee, GKP Foundation, www.globalknowledgepartnership.org
Vice Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
Skype: alain.berranger
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