NCSG input on request for special privileges for Red Cross & International Olympic Committee regarding Internet domains

Fri Oct 14 11:06:35 CEST 2011

Amazing! In view of how African governments reps sell *everything* WIPO as
"UN" to us..

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Konstantinos Komaitis <
k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk> wrote:

> WIPO and ICANN are two separate bodies. WIPO has always wanted to be
> involved in the domain name dispute process and, actually, long before the
> UDRP was formed and structured, WIPO had proposed another administrative
> policy, which WIPO was meant to be administering by itself. This proposal
> fell through and when the US Government approached WIPO for the UDRP, WIPO
> jumped on it. over the years, WIPO has sort of become the default authority
> over the rules and principles behind the UDRP, but this is more an issue of
> convention and habit rather than sustained in any official document. ICANN
> has with WIPO the same contractual agreements it has with NAF, the Czech
> Arbitration Court, and the other UDRP providers. Also, the services that
> WIPO provides for domain names are separate and unrelated to its work as a
> UN body on intellectual property issues, although WIPO tends to use the
> latter justification to sustain its authority over domain names and
> trademarks. ****
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> But, ultimately, ICANN is not bound to respect or follow WIPO's proposals
> and recommendations.****
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> *From:* NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] *On Behalf Of
> *Victoria McEvedy
> *Sent:* Πέμπτη, 13 Οκτωβρίου 2011 3:56 μμ
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> *To:* NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG input on request for special privileges
> for Red Cross & International Olympic Committee regarding Internet domains
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> I would just note that while WIPO has an arbitration centre -it is
> primarily responsible for certain international IP Treaties and their
> amendment. ****
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> It is a branch of the UN and responsible for IP Treaties and other services
> related thereto -including international trade mark registrations. ****
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> See http://www.wipo.int/about-wipo/en/what_is_wipo.html****
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> The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) is a specialized agency
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> accessible international intellectual property<http://www.wipo.int/about-ip/en/>(IP) system, which rewards creativity, stimulates innovation and contributes
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> WIPO was established by the WIPO Convention<http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/convention/>in 1967 with a mandate from its Member
> States <http://www.wipo.int/members/en/> to promote the protection of IP
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> *From:* NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] *On Behalf Of
> *Rafik Dammak
> *Sent:* 13 October 2011 15:22
> *To:* NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG input on request for special privileges
> for Red Cross & International Olympic Committee regarding Internet domains
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> Hi Alain****
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> I am little bit confused by a statement that you made,
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>  ICANN cannot substitute for INTA, WIPO, etc... it must only respect INTA,
> WIPO, etc... rules and regulations. ****
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> I may  understand for WIPO (which is btw an arbitration center) and  I have
> some reserves about that , but I am puzzled that you imply that ICANN must
> respect INTA "rules and regulations",for remind INTA is an association for
> trademark holders and professionals, which means an interest group. ****
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> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:*
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > TLD .olympic, .red-cross, .ngo, .iso, .intl, .iata (variant
> > .aita),  .icao (variant .oaci) and .code should be protected.
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> Protected from what?
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> Since when does someone own .ngo? If so, who?
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> Why .intl? Who has rights in that? Why?
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> JFC, I believe that the whole attitude here is wrong. I strongly resist the
> idea that we can create fiat global property rights in alphanumeric
> character strings just because someone on an email list thinks it's a good
> idea to "protect" whatever happens to be his or her pet organization. Lets
> try to be more systematic and think about long term consequences, clear
> rules, etc.
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