Question about NCUC faq relating to membership

[Alain Berranger]

Yes, I notice that NPOC is excluded here; I guess as a very new NCSG
Constituency we logically come under the radar of NCSG/NCUC documents
predating our arrival in the SG...  Maybe those documents should be updated?

In fact, there is a significantly different membership culture between NPOC
and NCUC... because NPOC is only interested in NFP/NGO organizational
members while NCUC mixes memberships from NFP/NGOs, academia (some could be
for profit) and individuals (who may also have for profit motives or even
be involved in two organizations, one for profit and one not for profit).
Not sure this will make sense down the road or that we will want to
continue that hybrid practice, as the number of constituencies may increase
and the likelihood of membership overlap increases... time will tell, I
guess!

I much prefer constituency-driven membership process followed by a higher
level SG membership vetting... in any case that is NPOC's membership
approach... unless our members wish it to be different in the future...

Alain


On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> BTW: I think the issue here refers to both constituencies and their
> membership, though the question is specifically prompted by an NCUC
> membership FAQ.
>
> The NCUC membership FAQ <
> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/15630409/NCSG-NCUC-Organization-member-Application.htm?version=1&modificationDate=1320787802795>
> says the following:
>
> > 3.     Should I be a member both of NCUC and NCSG?
> >
> > Yes. Membership in NCUC is important because .... However, one should be
> a member of NCSG in order to be able to vote in the elections concerning
> the NCSG Chair and the NCSG Councilors that sit at the Generic Names
> Supporting Organization (GNSO).
> >
>
> This  brings up a question since it seems to allow for one to decide not
> to join both (though of course I may be misreading it, i.e it says 'should'
> and not 'must')
>
> According to the charter, as I read it, one needs to be an NCSG member in
> order to join any of the constituencies as a member.
>
> > 2.3 Constituencies
> >
> > Constituencies are structures by which NCSG members with similar
> concerns and interests can work together on the GNSO policy process.
> Constituencies will be eligible for representation on all NCSG committees.
> As Constituencies are comprised of NCSG members with voting rights,
> Constituencies do not maintain any voting rights.
>
> So the question, can one be a member of a constituency without also being
> a NCSG member?
>
> I have always supposed that Constituencies could have associates or
> observers who were not members, but I thought that to be a member of a
> constituency, one must be a member of the NCSG first.
>
> Does this assumption correspond to the way other NCSG members read the
> charter? And does it correspond to the way the Constituency charters are
> written?
>
> avri




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