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[Mary.Wong at LAW.UNH.EDU]

While it's great to see an increasing number of participants on this list and definitely a good thing that more members are participating in active policy discussions, I'm afraid that some of the substantive discussions are getting lost amongst the number of emails related to procedural matters. Taking up Judy's and Nicolas' points, why not keep this NCSG-Discuss list as the main forum for policy discussions, and have an NCUC-only list for housekeeping, administrative, procedural and other internal NCUC matters? 

This could be the way to go also should more constituencies emerge. I understand Bill's and others' concerns about fragmentation and a possible risk that people might tend to take policy discussions to their constituency list rather than this SG list, but if there is consensus that (1) a constituency list should be used only for administrative issues and, where applicable, formulating a constituency position on issues that will and must be transmitted to the SG list prior to external publication; and (2) each constituency list is publicly archived/accessible, would that risk not be minimized somewhat? 

Cheers 
Mary


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Nicolas Adam <nickolas.adam at GMAIL.COM> 

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Date:  
11/22/2011 1:04 PM 

Subject:  
Re: [NCSG-Discuss] listservs 

I'm with Norbert.

I read 20 Icann related mail in like 20 minutes. Could have marked the whole thread read in one click if I would have prefered. BTW, the NCSG nirvana  the way I see it  would be something like 150 message per subject thread (1 each or whatever). So I certainly can't fathom

The list is not an announce list. This is, ideally, a policy-making forum. ICANN has lots of RSS feeds where one can subscribe for an announce type of service. Perhaps NCSG could have one too, for this purpose.

But there is no "cleaning" of this list that will not come with a participation loss. There is a limit to how democracy will keep your listserv neat, unfortunately.

Internal NCUC is another mater. I might be for such a list.

Nicolas

On 22/11/2011 10:56 AM, nhklein wrote: 


Hi All,

sorry, I have been involved in ICANN since 1999, but some of the recent discussions on this list seem to say that I am no longer in this world. My difficulties to follow these discussions relate to the fact that these different lists were a place "where we met" and discussed common concerns, in spite of the fact that we are spread around the globe (with some obvious "cultural" regions more dominant than others.






I think you are missing Judy's point. She is saying she wishes to stay involved and informed, without the debates. A well curated announce list is the only solution. Working in harmony with the confluence as a reference.

   
This idea cuts me completely off from our common history of many years - to be involved and informed without the debates???

To be involved did mean to participate in the debates (and even if it meant to share some observation or thoughts only very occasionally).

And how to be informed without observing the continuously on-going debates among us, the "bottom-up membership"? I think this was never possible in the past.

But there is obviously a climate change happening (not only in the physical atmosphere) by a new use of limited resources. And there is quite some concern that the climate change may have quite destructive effects, if it does not get under considerate control.


Norbert Klein

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