IGF and us

Thu Jul 14 09:26:05 CEST 2011

Hi

There could be some interesting synergy possibilities between the IGF and the ICANNsphere this time, e.g. with the new gTLD & JAS issues taken up in the main sessions, the Katim-instigated initiatve on ICANN & developing countries percolating pre-Dakar, etc.  Maybe something could be done along the lines of the outreach event Alex organized for the Nairobi ICANN, albeit on a smaller scale, and/or drawing on the SF workshop format…?

I'll be there from Friday 23 Sept. Meetings (GigaNet, APC, ISOC, the ministerial) start Monday 26th, IGF from the 27th.  If anyone else will be around Sat-Sun 24-25 and interested in making something happen, I'd be happy to join the effort.

Best

Bill 

On Jul 4, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:

> Carissimi,
> 
> The IGF is approaching. Whatever our views on it, some of us will be
> there in some capacity (mostly in the workshops, I guess). Could we
> think of something among us as NCUC/NCSG taking advantage of being there
> -- maybe some face-to-face agenda regarding the ICANN process pre-Senegal?
> 
> First of, we would need to know who will be there.
> 
> []s fraternos
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> On 07/03/2011 07:57 PM, Nicolas Adam wrote:
>> Thank you both.
>> 
>> I agree that we should keep our propositions for the Review, but i was
>> glad to be able to read some of them in advance.
>> 
>> Nicolas
>> 
>> On 7/3/2011 10:40 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>> KK:
>>> Thanks for making the comments better. However, on the issue of
>>> proposing specific substantive and procedural changes, I think it
>>> would be a tactical mistake to do so in this round of comments. I
>>> think the main issue now is whether the review takes place at all. We
>>> should not, in my opinion, let other groups know what we would
>>> consider acceptable changes until we are actually in a review.
>>> 
>>> You will recall that in Singapore we agreed to work on a reference
>>> document regarding what changes would be ideal from our point of view.
>>> I still believe that work should proceed on that document, but it
>>> should not be confused with the comments on the need for a review, imho.
>>> 
>>> --MM
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Konstantinos Komaitis [mailto:k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 6:48 AM
>>>> To: Milton L Mueller; NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>>>> Subject: Re: proposed comments on UDRP
>>>> Importance: High
>>>> 
>>>> I am sending a draft with my additions on the substantive and procedural
>>>> changes we would like to see in the UDRP. Apologies if I went a bit
>>>> overboard here, but as you may many of these issues are covered in my
>>>> book - so I tried to include them without being academically pedantic.
>>>> 
>>>> May I suggest we use this document as our master copy and I have also
>>>> uploaded it in a piratepad version (http://piratepad.net/sNv8ukSm1V) for
>>>> those who do use open source software.
>>>> 
>>>> The deadline for submission is July 15 and I can submit them. May I,
>>>> therefore, have all your suggestions/recommendations no later than July
>>>> 14, 2011.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> KK
>>>> 
>>>> From: Milton L Mueller<mueller at SYR.EDU<mailto:mueller at SYR.EDU>>
>>>> Reply-To: Milton L Mueller<mueller at SYR.EDU<mailto:mueller at SYR.EDU>>
>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:30:01 +0100
>>>> To: "NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<mailto:NCSG-NCUC-
>>>> DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>"<NCSG-NCUC-
>>>> DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>>
>>>> Subject: proposed comments on UDRP
>>>> 
>>>> Please consider the attached document my contribution to the effort. It
>>>> gets us started. I do not have time to do much more, so I hope others
>>>> can finish it.
>>>> 
>>>> Milton L. Mueller
>>>> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies Internet
>>>> Governance Project http://blog.internetgovernance.org
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
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Ho everybody

I will arrive Sunday, September 25, around early afternoon.  You can count on me.

wolfgang

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Hi

There could be some interesting synergy possibilities between the IGF and the ICANNsphere this time, e.g. with the new gTLD & JAS issues taken up in the main sessions, the Katim-instigated initiatve on ICANN & developing countries percolating pre-Dakar, etc.  Maybe something could be done along the lines of the outreach event Alex organized for the Nairobi ICANN, albeit on a smaller scale, and/or drawing on the SF workshop format...?

I'll be there from Friday 23 Sept. Meetings (GigaNet, APC, ISOC, the ministerial) start Monday 26th, IGF from the 27th.  If anyone else will be around Sat-Sun 24-25 and interested in making something happen, I'd be happy to join the effort.

Best

Bill

On Jul 4, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:

> Carissimi,
>
> The IGF is approaching. Whatever our views on it, some of us will be
> there in some capacity (mostly in the workshops, I guess). Could we
> think of something among us as NCUC/NCSG taking advantage of being there
> -- maybe some face-to-face agenda regarding the ICANN process pre-Senegal?
>
> First of, we would need to know who will be there.
>
> []s fraternos
>
> --c.a.
>
> On 07/03/2011 07:57 PM, Nicolas Adam wrote:
>> Thank you both.
>>
>> I agree that we should keep our propositions for the Review, but i was
>> glad to be able to read some of them in advance.
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>> On 7/3/2011 10:40 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>> KK:
>>> Thanks for making the comments better. However, on the issue of
>>> proposing specific substantive and procedural changes, I think it
>>> would be a tactical mistake to do so in this round of comments. I
>>> think the main issue now is whether the review takes place at all. We
>>> should not, in my opinion, let other groups know what we would
>>> consider acceptable changes until we are actually in a review.
>>>
>>> You will recall that in Singapore we agreed to work on a reference
>>> document regarding what changes would be ideal from our point of view.
>>> I still believe that work should proceed on that document, but it
>>> should not be confused with the comments on the need for a review, imho.
>>>
>>> --MM
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Konstantinos Komaitis [mailto:k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 6:48 AM
>>>> To: Milton L Mueller; NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>>>> Subject: Re: proposed comments on UDRP
>>>> Importance: High
>>>>
>>>> I am sending a draft with my additions on the substantive and procedural
>>>> changes we would like to see in the UDRP. Apologies if I went a bit
>>>> overboard here, but as you may many of these issues are covered in my
>>>> book - so I tried to include them without being academically pedantic.
>>>>
>>>> May I suggest we use this document as our master copy and I have also
>>>> uploaded it in a piratepad version (http://piratepad.net/sNv8ukSm1V) for
>>>> those who do use open source software.
>>>>
>>>> The deadline for submission is July 15 and I can submit them. May I,
>>>> therefore, have all your suggestions/recommendations no later than July
>>>> 14, 2011.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> KK
>>>>
>>>> From: Milton L Mueller<mueller at SYR.EDU<mailto:mueller at SYR.EDU>>
>>>> Reply-To: Milton L Mueller<mueller at SYR.EDU<mailto:mueller at SYR.EDU>>
>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:30:01 +0100
>>>> To: "NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<mailto:NCSG-NCUC-
>>>> DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>"<NCSG-NCUC-
>>>> DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>>
>>>> Subject: proposed comments on UDRP
>>>>
>>>> Please consider the attached document my contribution to the effort. It
>>>> gets us started. I do not have time to do much more, so I hope others
>>>> can finish it.
>>>>
>>>> Milton L. Mueller
>>>> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies Internet
>>>> Governance Project http://blog.internetgovernance.org <http://blog.internetgovernance.org/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>