Petition to form a new ICANN constituency

[Nuno Garcia]

Chér Baudouin, democracy without transparency is not democracy at all.

If you have questions and doubts, you should voice them and these should be
answered. If these do not have an answer, then something is wrong.

I have considered all the arguments in these threads and for me it is not
clear that NOT-FOR-PROFIT is a subgroup of NON-COMMERCIAL.

Many not-for-profit organizations have a commercial nature, although they do
not seek profit that can be distributed to their shareholders.

Red Cross, for one. How can one distinguish Red Cross from, let us say,
Vodafone? Probably the single point of distinction is that Red Cross does
accept volunteer work (and Vodafone does not). And of course, the types of
services they render (but this distinguishes all other organizations,
right?). Yet, they only render services to the communities that are their
target if and when someone funds these services.

Not to take it too far, for me, right now, it probably makes sense to have a
NOT-FOR-PROFIT constituency, but not in the scope of the NCUC.

Best regards,

Nuno Garcia

On 9 November 2010 08:02, Baudouin SCHOMBE <b.schombe at gmail.com> wrote:

> hello
> Who are the members, non-governmental, non profit ...? Where can I get
> information about this new group? I am so far confused. Should we say that
> these are the consequences of the principles of democracy?
>
>
> SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN
> *COORDONNATEUR DU CENTRE AFRICAIN D'ECHANGE CULTUREL (CAFEC)
>  ACADEMIE DES TIC
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> *NCUC/GNSO MEMBER (ICANN)
>
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> 2010/11/8 Amber Sterling <asterling at aamc.org>
>
> Dear Alex,
>>
>> NPOC members have absolutely no intention of undermining anyone's outreach
>> efforts.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Amber
>>
>> Amber Sterling
>> Senior Intellectual Property Specialist
>> Association of American Medical Colleges
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of
>> Alex Gakuru
>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:43 PM
>> To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Petition to form a new ICANN constituency
>>
>> Dear Amber,
>>
>> Would the expected "Eastern and Western Africa" organisations be Red
>> Cross/Crescent type only? This is important for me know in my capacity
>> as NCUC Africa representative considering that I have outreached and
>> recruited a number throughout all of Africa during my tenure. And I do
>> not wish have some surprise "defections" - for lack of a better word.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> 2010/11/3 "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
>> <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>:
>> > Amber
>> >
>> > I would be also thankful if you could reply to my questions.
>> >
>> > Would it be possible to provide a list of such waiting organisations?
>> And would it be also possible to specifiy your outreach  activities in
>> currently under-represented regions. I am in particular interested what you
>> have done in Eastern Europa, Central Asia and Eastern and Western Africa.
>> >
>> > wolfgang
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >
>> > Von: Amber Sterling [mailto:asterling at AAMC.ORG]
>> > Gesendet: Mi 03.11.2010 14:48
>> > An: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>> > Betreff: Re: Petition to form a new ICANN constituency
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I am compiling a list of questions posed regarding the NPOC charter and
>> > will respond later today... the issue about whether or not the NPOC
>> > would include "various national Chamber of Commerce or the International
>> > Chamber of Commerce" is a non-starter.  The proposed NPOC would be a
>> > constituency within the NCSG and therefore must meet NCSG membership
>> > requirements.
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> > Amber
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf
>> Of
>> > Carlos A. Afonso
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:18 AM
>> > To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>> > Subject: Re: Petition to form a new ICANN constituency
>> >
>> > The way it is phrased now, yes, sure.
>> >
>> > --c.a.
>> >
>> > On 11/03/2010 10:58 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
>> >> On 3 Nov 2010, at 08:43, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> The mission statement is phrased to involve *any* non-profit,
>> > including business associations (non-profits which defend commercial
>> > interests),
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Would this include the various national Chamber of Commerce or the
>> > International Chamber of Commerce?
>> >>
>> >> Though the ICC is currently part of the BC, should we look forward to
>> > them joining the NPOC?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> a.
>> >
>>
>
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