NPOC Q&A Document

[Kimberley Heitman]

Actually, Red Cross's trademarks are protected by the Geneva Convention 1864
- so GAC can look after it. Even in the US, misuse of the emblem is a
criminal offence.



I doubt very much that the Geneva Convention requires a "thick WHOIS" for
the benefit of humanitarian aid. For the benefit of trademark lawyers and
oppressive Governments, perhaps.

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Rosemary Sinclair
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However there are some NFPs run for not for profit purposes who belong in
NCSG and have interests to protect in domain names space. For me they
include Red Cross, Medicine sans Frontiers, ACCAN, ..... But not ATUG (altho
we are a NFP org) as our work is on behalf of businesses, cheers Rosemary

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I agree that a constituency that advocates for commercial interests properly
belongs in the Commercial Stakeholder Group.  NCSG is the only place at
ICANN that is specifically reserved for NON-commercial interests as their
goal.   It seems this trademark group (NPOC) belongs in the CSG since it is
primarily concerned with commercial interests - especially trademarks and
brands.  It is not enough to be set up as a non-for-profit organization to
belong in NCSG.  Thousands of not-for-profit organizations are set up to
support commercial interests (like the RIAA, MPAA, IFPI, etc) -- but they
are set up to benefit COMMERCE, so they would properly belong in the CSG.



It is important that this distinction is made early-on in the formation of
the NCSG - or it will be entirely over-run by commercial interests set up as
not-for-profits.  Of course these groups are welcome at ICANN, but they
really belong in the CSG.



Best,

Robin





On Nov 8, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Kimberley Heitman wrote:





Looking at the IP-owner agenda of the NPOC, it's no surprise that there is
going to be considerable resistance to commercial interests being asserted
within the NCSG. Obviously the proper place for its shadowy members is
within the Intellectual Property Constituency with the other IP lawyers.

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Kimberley James Heitman
www.kheitman.com
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Amber Sterling
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Subject: NPOC Q&A Document



Hi All,



Thank you for your questions and patience.  Attached is the Q&A document we
created to address your questions about the NPOC.  We will send updated
information regarding our membership towards the end of November.



Kind regards,

Amber



Amber Sterling

Senior Intellectual Property Specialist

Association of American Medical Colleges









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