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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Actually, Red Cross’s trademarks are
protected by the Geneva Convention 1864 – so GAC can look after it. Even
in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
misuse of the emblem is a criminal offence. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I doubt very much that the Geneva Convention
requires a “thick WHOIS” for the benefit of humanitarian aid. For
the benefit of trademark lawyers and oppressive Governments, perhaps.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Kimberley</st1:City></st1:place> James
Heitman<br>
www.kheitman.com<br>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> NCSG-NCUC
[mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Rosemary Sinclair<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 9 November 2010
6:48 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: NPOC Q&A Document</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>However
there are some NFPs run for not for profit purposes who belong in NCSG and have
interests to protect in domain names space. For me they include Red Cross,
Medicine sans Frontiers, ACCAN, ..... But not ATUG (altho we are a NFP org) as
our work is on behalf of businesses, cheers Rosemary<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Sent from
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-weight:bold'>Date: </span></font></b>Tue, 9 Nov 2010 08:45:26 +1100<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-weight:bold'>Subject: </span></font></b>Re: NPOC Q&A Document<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I
agree that a constituency that advocates for commercial interests properly
belongs in the Commercial Stakeholder Group. NCSG is the only place at
ICANN that is specifically reserved for NON-commercial interests as their goal.
It seems this trademark group (NPOC) belongs in the CSG since it is
primarily concerned with commercial interests - especially trademarks and
brands. It is not enough to be set up as a non-for-profit organization to
belong in NCSG. Thousands of not-for-profit organizations are set up to
support commercial interests (like the RIAA, MPAA, IFPI, etc) -- but they are
set up to benefit COMMERCE, so they would properly belong in the CSG.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>It
is important that this distinction is made early-on in the formation of the
NCSG - or it will be entirely over-run by commercial interests set up as
not-for-profits. Of course these groups are welcome at ICANN, but they
really belong in the CSG.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Robin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>On
Nov 8, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Kimberley Heitman wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Looking at the IP-owner agenda of the
NPOC, it’s no surprise that there is going to be considerable resistance
to commercial interests being asserted within the NCSG. Obviously the proper place
for its shadowy members is within the Intellectual Property Constituency with
the other IP lawyers.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<st1:place u4:st="on"><st1:city u4:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kimberley</st1:city></st1:place></st1:place></st1:City> James
Heitman<br>
<a href="http://www.kheitman.com">www.kheitman.com</a><br>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> NCSG-NCUC [mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Amber Sterling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 8 November 2010
11:26 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> NPOC Q&A Document</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hi
All,<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thank
you for your questions and patience. Attached is the Q&A document we
created to address your questions about the NPOC. We will send updated
information regarding our membership towards the end of November.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Kind
regards,<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Amber<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Amber
Sterling<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Senior
Intellectual Property Specialist<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Association
of American Medical Colleges<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Robin Gross,
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