Local cost related to running a TLD

[Avri Doria]

Hi,

The issue is that when one complains about this cost, the reply is that the 185,000 fee is nothing when compared to the cost of running a registry. So when one responds that in developing areas, the cost of running a new registry, especially a small  one with a slow ramp up will be much lower, we are asked to prove it.  And to date have not had the figures to do so.  

I..e when I make the argument that it cost less to do a proper regisrty in Cambodia or Kenya, I am just handwaving, because I do not have the financial facts.

a.

On 17 Mar 2010, at 22:20, Norbert Klein wrote:

> Thanks, Rafik,
> 
> to take up the question of running a TLD, and the fact that these costs
> might be quite different depending on the location. (I created and
> administered a ccTLD for some years).
> 
> Most of the discussions I see related to new TLDs are dealing with the
> "$185,000" - and though I know this is to be "cost recovery" I am not
> aware how this is  being calculated in detail (any lead/URL is appreciated).
> 
> Is this "cost recovery" calculation also related to the location where
> it is done? Surely. Is this necessarily so?
> 
> 
> Norbert Klein
> 
> = 
> 
> 
> Rafik Dammak wrote:
>> Hello Jorge,
>> 
>> during questions to the board members, one argument that we used was
>> that cost for running ccTLD in developing countries isn't so high, is
>> there any study about that?
>> there will be working group about possible funding approach for
>> applicants (at least I heard that there is attempts to contact world
>> bank and so on to fund applicants from developing countries)
>> the board resolution :
>> "the Board requests stakeholders to work through their SOs and ACs,
>> and form a Working Group to develop a sustainable approach to
>> providing support to applicants requiring assistance in applying for
>> and operating new gTLDs ."
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Rafik 
>> 
>> 2010/3/18 Jorge Amodio <jmamodio at gmail.com <mailto:jmamodio at gmail.com>>
>> 
>>    Well, if that is your understanding good luck going through the
>>    technical evaluation, be aware that once you pay the evaluation fee
>>    depending on what phase of the evaluation your application goes
>>    through if you withdraw or become not eligible not all the monies are
>>    refundable.
>> 
>>    BTW, I ran a ccTLD for many years, TLDs are not hard to create they
>>    are hard to maintain.
>> 
>>    Regards
>>    Jorge
>> 
>>    On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Marc Perkel
>>    <marc at churchofreality.org <mailto:marc at churchofreality.org>> wrote:
>>> Actually I don't think you're right. I haven't done it but TLDs
>>    are not hard
>>> to create. Just a few lines in a BIND file. All you need to make
>>    it official
>>> is having the root servers hand it off to my private TLD
>>    servers. As to
>>> capacity, if the TLD is small then you don't need much of a
>>    server to handle
>>> it. I could add it to my current name servers.
>>> 
>>> Jorge Amodio wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Actually as other said $185K is just for starters, it really
>>    depends
>>>> on what do you intend to do with the new gTLD.
>>>> 
>>>> To run or outsource a full fledged registry you have to think
>>    in the
>>>> order of a $500K-$1M initial investment, and that does not
>>    include the
>>>> costs of a legal battle with others such as ReMax that may
>>    intend to
>>>> apply for the same string.
>>>> 
>>>> If you don't have that money on the bank or investors willing
>>    to foot
>>>> the bill you are out of the game.
>>>> 
>>>> My .02
>>>> Jorge
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Marc Perkel
>>    <marc at churchofreality.org <mailto:marc at churchofreality.org>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Avri Doria wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Mar 2010, at 13:11, Marc Perkel wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW - how do I apply for the .reality TLD?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> once the final applicant guidebook is released sometime
>>    between now and
>>>>> 2012
>>>>> (draft details can be found at
>>>>> http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtld-program.htm), follow its
>>>>> instructions, pay the big bucks (185,000 USD at the moment)
>>    and then go
>>>>> through the process and hang on through the challenges.
>>>>> 
>>>>> better have some deep pocket for the ride.
>>>>> 
>>>>> a.
>>>>> 
>>>>> $185,000 - so only the rich can get TLDs. Why is that?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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