[council] FYI - New GNSO Constituency Notice of Intent - Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency

[Fouad Bajwa]

Amber, have you attended any NCSG-NCUC meeting as yet, I don't
remember you participating to raise any concerns or intentions in
Seoul or Nairobi?

Maybe you are attempting to create a conflict of interest in the name
of a non-profit constituency and you may want to explore the option of
becoming an At-Large ALS under ALAC: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/

Community process strengthening and participation is about winning
consensus and support of the community, not going totally against the
whole Non-Commercial spirit.

Lurking on lists is not a reason to confide in and that creates
serious concerns. As a member of NCSG-NCUC from the developing world,
I would never recommend such an approach because it also exposes
intentions of many such as the ICANN staff issue already raised here.

IMHO, you should win community and not turn the community against this
issue therefore you should respect the community member's concerns
because alone, there is no constituency.

The concerns shown by the membership of the NCSG-NCUC community are
very valid and your position is a discrimination one.

It is still my humble advice that you should join the ICANN community
and constituency process through ALAC and NARALO (North American
Regional At-Large Organization) instead of attempting to create cracks
in the existing one.

-- 
Concerned
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Fouad Bajwa

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Amber Sterling <asterling at aamc.org> wrote:
> I am one of the leaders supporting the proposed Not-for-Profit
> Organization Constituency.  First and foremost the proposed NPOC is not
> an attempt to merely expand trademark owners rights.
>
> I have been a lurker on this list serve for a while now and I believe
> that the NCSG does not promote various opinions and discussions from its
> "dynamic representation of various social classes".  The NPOC would
> allow not-for-profit organizations to affiliate and respond to various
> DNS issues, as it pertains to our organizations.
>
> Debra Hughes, another leader of the NPOC, reached out to all GNSO
> council members.  Rafik even joined one of our outreach webinars.
>
> Further, it is my understanding that ICANN has strongly encouraged (if
> not mandated) membership expansion.  This new constituency would be a
> vehicle for new members to join the ICANN conversation.
>
> Amber Sterling
> Business Development Specialist
> Association of American Medical Colleges
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Konstantinos Komaitis
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:19 AM
> To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Re: [council] FYI - New GNSO Constituency Notice of Intent -
> Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency
>
> That is very true - because we have been so very good at stopping the
> expansion of trademarks outside our circles now we will have to do the
> same within our own one. It is embarrassing for a constituency that
> calls itself non-commercial to promote the ICANN-led protection of
> trademarks and seek to justify it.
>
> KK
>
> Dr. Konstantinos Komaitis,
> Law Lecturer,
> Director of Postgraduate Instructional Courses
> University of Strathclyde,
> The Law School,
> The Lord Hope Building,
> 141 St. James Road,
> Glasgow, G4 0LT
> UK
> tel: +44 (0)141 548 4306
> http://www.routledgemedia.com/books/The-Current-State-of-Domain-Name-Reg
> ulation-isbn9780415477765
> Selected publications:
> http://hq.ssrn.com/submissions/MyPapers.cfm?partid=501038
> Website: http://domainnamelaw.ning.com/
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Kimberley Heitman
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:57 AM
> To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Re: [council] FYI - New GNSO Constituency Notice of Intent -
> Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency
>
>> I do not understand very well. Why option to form a nonprofit group?
> Are
>> we not in a dynamic representation of various social classes?
>
> Have you noticed the proponents all have an interest in trademarks? A
> cynic
> might think that it is an attempted takeover of the public interest
> constituency by trademark owners, launched from the home of
> astro-turfing.
>
> -----------------------
> Kimberley James Heitman
> www.kheitman.com
> -----------------------
>