NCUC and the ICANN "WSIS Workshop PlanningGroup"

Erick Iriarte Ahon faia at AMAUTA.RCP.NET.PE
Mon Aug 9 00:29:36 CEST 2004


puppets? me, you, we, NCUC, ALAC, who?

first i don't believe you are a puppet, and please (please, again), don't
believe that from me.

If i read correctly the invitation to this "group" said:

"(...) It is an initial step towards developing a bottom-up consensus to
guide positions on Internet Governance, and to strengthen ICANN stakeholder
awareness of WSIS and WSIS participants' understanding of ICANN.
Submissions will be used to develop a statement with key themes about ICANN
and Internet Governance, which can be used as input and guidance for the
ICANN community and as a resource in working with other entities via the
WSIS process.
The statement will be circulated for endorsement and consideration by ICANN
Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees (as appropriate) and will
be presented at the next WSIS Workshop at the Cape town ICANN meeting in
December 2004." (...)

And with this information i say:

1. It's not only about speak 3 minutes un Cape Town (and if you travel to
Cape Town, you can use this 3 minutes to explain NCUC position if the
constituency want).
2. It's about create a document (or similar), about WSIS/Internet
Governance. Which better space to explain NCUC position about this issues?
(and not only the Internet Governance Caucus where you be one of the
leaders too).
3. All the time you speak about the necessity to participate and "speak"
the Non-Commercial vision. Use this space, and if you don't want to
participate, maybe another member of the NCUC can participate.

Yours..

Erick



At 05:00 p.m. 08/08/2004, Milton Mueller wrote:
>Erick:
>I did explain, it is in the message right here:
>
> >Reason: this is an ICANN management "show" designed to present a
> >unified front to the WSIS process. The program is dominated by ICANN
> >management and the Axis constituencies regardless of whether we
> >participate or not. Notice, for example, that both shows gave Marilyn
> >Cade
> >the opportunity for a closing benediction, a privilege I don't think
> >they would
> >confer upon me or any other NCUC rep.
> >
> >So why waste scarce time on it?
>
>More comments:
>
> >>> Erick Iriarte Ahon <faia at amauta.rcp.net.pe> 08/08/04 05:18PM >>>
> >in kuala lumpur you (Milton) talked with about about the
> >necessity to work more close with ALAC, in special in WSIS
> >issues.
>
>We will work with ALAC - but independently of this
>Workshop Planning Group. For example, in KL we had
>a joint meeting. We do not need the "planning
>group" to do things related to WSIS. It is a barrier
>to activity rather than an aid.
>
> >I don't understand your position (and i understand is only your
> >position),
>
>It is not just my position.
>We discussed it a lot around the time of
>the Rome meeting in the EC and among the Council
>members.
>
> >because another members from the constituency think (at
> >least Adam and me) think is a good space to work together.
>
>I have explained my position, now explain yours. Explain
>what we gain by being put on a platform like puppets
>and given three minutes to speak in a stage-managed
>program.
>
>--MM


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