[ncdnhc-discuss] boundaries of IPR policy making

[Kent Crispin]

On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 10:26:41AM -0400, James Love wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Crispin" <kent at songbird.com>
> : Sorry, no.  There is in fact nobody on this list, bar none, who has had
> : as much experience as Dave in the process of developing useful
> : productive output through participation in mailing list participation.
> :
> 
>    Kent, while I'm sure Dave has much to be proud of, mailing lists are used
> for lots of things, and some of the people on this list have used mailing
> lists for lots of things, and do lots of things involving "successful and
> unsuccessful public discussion about organizational scope and procedure."

Perhaps, but there is little evidence of that on this list.

> Certainly if you define relevant experience as things that Dave  has done,
> such as his long standing contributions to  various ICANN lists, no one
> could ignore his experience there,

ICANN has only been in existence for a small fraction of the time that
Dave has been working via email; the fact that you are ignorant of his 
work in other venues is more telling than you realize.

> and people can decide for themselves how
> productive and useful he has been.

Compared to what?  The usual "ICANN list?

>  However, I think it is foolish to
> assume that this is the be-all and end-all of decision making, and certainly
> there are a lot of persons on this list with experience running
> organizations. 

But we were discussing experience in producing complex and meaningful
results via online email collaborations, not running organizations in
general, weren't we? In fact, it is abundantly clear that general
experience in "running organizations" is of very little value when it
comes to working in online groups. 

-- 
Kent Crispin                               "Be good, and you will be
Technical Support Manager, ICANN            lonesome."
crispin at icann.org,kent at songbird.com                    -- Mark Twain