[ncdnhc-discuss] Conflict of interest

[James Love]

I have one outstanding question to Kent Crispin.  Kent, to be clear about
this, and I think you can answer a straightforward question like this,
does the ICANN staff permit you, as a senior ICANN staff member,  to vote in
the DNSO constituencies?

  Jamie


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com>
To: "James Love" <love at cptech.org>
Cc: "Kent Crispin" <kent at songbird.com>; "NCDNHC List"
<discuss at icann-ncc.org>; "Andrew McLaughlin" <mclaughlin at pobox.com>; "icann
board address" <icann-board at icann.org>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] Conflict of interest


> James and all,
>
>   James, you are delving into areas that IMHO are far beyond
> Kent's or Dave Crockers ability or knowledge base to understand
> clearly.  Therefore I would humbly suggest that you discontinue
> trying to educate them here in these areas...
>
> James Love wrote:
>
> > Kent,
> >
> > Getting back to first principles, the main thing is to understand why
(some)
> > governments (all over the world) enact rules that limit political
activity
> > by the civil service, or prohibit civil servants from interfering in
> > legislative affairs.  There is a widely shared concern that there should
be
> > independence between various powerful actors or branches of the
government.
> > You see rules that limit commingling of:
> >
> > -    The staff the carry out the day to day functions of the government
> > -    The elected heads of those governments
> > -    The groups that set the rules (the legislative branch)
> > -    The groups that revolve disputes (the judicial).
> >
> > I personally think separation is a good idea, and the lack of separation
a
> > bad idea.
> >
> > Likewise, in the corporate world (including the non-profit world) you
have
> > ideas like independent auditors, and criticism when say Arthur Anderson
was
> > both a consultant and an auditor to Eron.  In an institution like ICANN,
> > where there are lots of concerns over misuse of power, it makes sense to
> > have systems that inspire confidence, rather than on that breeds
distrust.
> >
> > Note also that I support the inclusion of Potters Yachters as an NCC
member
> > and of Dave Crocker as an NCC representative from his NGO, and agree
with
> > both you and Dave on some substantive issues and disagree on others, and
my
> > views on the separation of staff and the various legislative bodies (the
> > DNSO) are not meant to be taken as personal attacks on anyone.  Like
Michael
> > Froomkin, I encourage the ICANN staff (including you or Andrew) to
> > particpate in the list discussion and to share views and answer
questions.
> >
> >    Jamie
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kent Crispin" <kent at songbird.com>
> > To: "NCDNHC List" <discuss at icann-ncc.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] Conflict of interest
> >
> > > I'm sorry, but one further note on the hatch act: the general
> > > restrictions (the ones that apply to general government employees)
are:
> > >
> > > Federal employees may NOT:
> > >
> > >     - use official authority or influence to interfere with an
election
> > >     - solicit or discourage political activity of anyone
> > >         with business before their agency
> > >     - solicit or receive political contributions (may be
> > >         done in certain limited situations by federal labor or other
> > employee
> > >         organizations)
> > >     - be candidates for public office in partisan elections
> > >     - engage in political activity while:
> > >          0 on duty
> > >          0 in a government office
> > >          0 wearing an official uniform
> > >          0 using a government vehicle
> > >     - wear partisan political buttons on duty
> > >
> > > Even if thse rules were directly translated to the ICANN context, my
> > > case is a very long way from violating any of them -- I don't even
have
> > > an ICANN uniform (well, I have a couple of t-shirts -- but those are
> > > available to anyone).
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kent Crispin                               "Be good, and you will be
> > > kent at songbird.com                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
> >
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>
> Regards,
>
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