[ncdnhc-discuss] Re: [ncdnhc-announce] 2002 1st Adcom MeetingReport!

Fri Mar 8 03:37:12 CET 2002

1.  First, when the Ad Com meets, would it be possible to have some prior
notice for the NCC membership?
2.  Could there be some indication of what the adcom will do when it meets
(an agenda), so that members of the NCC can at least express an opinion
before the Ad Com makes all of these decisions on our behalf?
3.  From the message you posted earlier, it does not appear as if only Ad
Com members can serve on all the TF that the Ad Com filled.   And of course,
you appointed some non-ad com members, like Milton, who is no longer on the
Ad Com.
4.  I would appreciate some comment on the obligation of "our" task force
members to communicate with the NCC about the positions that "we" have
taken.  For example, I would like to know what "our" positions are on the
.org TF.

All of this complaining about other parts of ICANN will be more persuasive
if the NCC is more transparent and accountable, in the same "bottom up" way
that Harold's proposed resolution calls for.

Jamie

  PS.... do you really think there was no one in the NCC membership that may
be been tapped for these various TF positions?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chun Eung Hwi" <ehchun at peacenet.or.kr>
To: "James Love" <love at cptech.org>
Cc: "ncc" <discuss at icann-ncc.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] Re: [ncdnhc-announce] 2002 1st Adcom
MeetingReport!

> Dear James Love and others,
>
>
> Thank you for your comment and I truly feel sorry for your disappointment!
> What you proposed for the future procedure of nominating appropriate
> people for those TFs is still valid and is open-ended for discussion.
>
> Firstly, we should confirm how freely we could decide for the appintment
> of representative for our constituency. Because some TF rep. looks to be
> limited to NC persons. Regarding this, I want to hear the advices from the
> former adcom members.
>
> Secondly, we thank for your contribution for this proposal and would
> discuss further in Accra meeting. If possible, hopefully, Manon Ress would
> explain the need and the more materialized procedure. Anyhow, it takes
> some time.
>
> Thirdly, we should continue to work in those TFs even before we complete
> our procedure. Some TFs will have meetings in Accra. Therefore, I am very
> open for the possible change of our adcom decision in future when we would
> agree upon the procedure. The present decision is considering the
> continuity of the work at the moment. To reserve decision about the vacant
> seats for the time being is not a good idea.
>
> I am looking forward to more discussion on this issue.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Chun Eung Hwi
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Chun Eung Hwi
> General Secretary, PeaceNet | phone:     (+82) 2- 2062-1302
> Seoul Yangchun P.O.Box 81   |   pcs:     (+82) 019-259-2667
> Seoul, 158-600, Korea       | eMail:   ehchun at peacenet.or.kr
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, James Love wrote:
>
> > I take this report to say that the Adcom will appoint members to Task
Forces
> > without consulting the membership and without giving people a chance to
> > indicate willingess to serve, or to discuss who should represent us.
I
> > am quite disppointed in this.
> >
> > Jamie
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chun Eung Hwi" <ehchun at peacenet.or.kr>
> > To: <announce at icann-ncc.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:42 PM
> > Subject: [ncdnhc-announce] 2002 1st Adcom Meeting Report!
> >
> >
> > > Dear NCDNHC Members,
> > >
> > > We had the first adcom member meeting on March 8th.
> > > This is a brief report.
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Chun Eung Hwi
> > > General Secretary, PeaceNet | phone:     (+82) 2- 2062-1302
> > > Seoul Yangchun P.O.Box 81   |   pcs:     (+82) 019-259-2667
> > > Seoul, 158-600, Korea       | eMail:   ehchun at peacenet.or.kr
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > We, some of adcom members - Chun, Harold, Thierry had one meeting on
March
> > > 8th. And we got Erick's comments on that after that meeting. This is
our
> > > decisions.
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. Confirmation of NC Members and Adcom Members
> > >
> > > Respecting Dany's remark, we confirmed Erick would be an NC member and
> > > EU-region adcom member would be Marc Schneider.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2. Ghana NCDNHC Meeting
> > >
> > > - American Civil Society group requested to allow us to use the
morning
> > > session and meeting place of NCDNHC for their own at-large related
> > > meeting.
> > >
> > > - We accpeted their request because at the moment, our agenda for f2f
> > > meeting is enough for the latter half of the day. The afternoon
session
> > > will start 14:00. The first half of the meeting will be presided by
> > > Thierry and the latter half by the other.
> > >
> > > Now, the meeting place is as follows:
> > > Date: March 11, Monday
> > > Place: La Palm Beach Hotel
> > >
> > > Chris Chiu, we hope you announce your plan as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > - Thierry will organize one adcom meeting for the preparation of
ncdnhc
> > > meeting Sunday night (March 10). If possible, Chun will join in
Salzburg
> > > invitee meeting in the morning and to meet Thierry and Erick there.
> > >
> > >
> > > 3. Rearrangement of TFs
> > >
> > > Chun and Harold agreed
> > >
> > > - Harold will join in UDRP TF and we hope that TF would allow Milton
> > > Mueller to continue his contribution in that TF if he accept it. And
we
> > > request Milton Mueller to continue his remaining work in .ORG TF and
UDRP
> > > TF because in these two fields, his contribution was extraordinarily
great
> > > and the continuity of the work is very important. Specifically in .ORG
TF,
> > > if RFP is to be put forward by ICANN headquater, the review of that
RFP is
> > > very important. But in .ORG TF if his chairposition is no longer
> > > maintained and it is very decisive factor to be taken into account,
Harold
> > > is ready to replace his role.
> > >
> > > - Request Sarah Andrews (Electronic Privacy Information Center) to
> > > participate in Whois TF. She and her organization have good expertise
in
> > > this field and she had showed up her willingness to join in that TF.
Erick
> > > suggested to decide it after her CV is to be confirmed.
> > >
> > > - We discussed about Erick's status in UDRP TF as a ccTLD
representative
> > > even though he is an NC member in NCDNHC constituency. But we agreed
that
> > > ccTLD's interest is more complex and not simply commercial, so no
problem
> > > in his maintenance of his status as ccTLD rep. in UDRP TF.
> > >
> > > - As Erick wanted to take, Erick would join in Transfer and New TLD
TFs.
> > >
> > > - Chun will take IDN, New TLD TFs.
> > >
> > > - Raul Echebarria is taking a good job in Structure TF. And so we
expect
> > > him to continue to do it.
> > >
> > > - For administration related committees, Harold will join in Budget
> > > Committee so that he might defend non-commercial community's own
position
> > > for NC funding and appeal the difficulties and of course perform
watchdog
> > > role in that committee. Anyhow, this funding is very serius challenge
to
> > > our community because it could lead to taking off our voting rights in
> > > Names Council. Chun will join in Intake Committee.
> > >
> > >
> > > 4. Response to Stuart Lynn's Reform Proposal
> > >
> > > Now ICANN headquater is saying that Reform Proposal is a proposal
document
> > > for getting comments and they hope Board to decide something about
> > > restructuring plan of ICANN up to the next Bucharest Meeting held in
> > > coming June. We changed some recent information what is going on in
ICANN
> > > community. Harold Feld will prepare for the draft resolution and post
it
> > > to discussion list as soon as possible.
> > >
> > >
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