[ncdnhc-discuss] How to do the NomCom?

Tue Jun 4 22:01:53 CEST 2002

Alejandro,

I would start by considering how you select the NomCom.   Within the
framework on the Committee proposal, I would have the NomCom selected by
organizations that are not directly regulated by ICANN, and which are
independent from ICANN.   I would definitely not have the board appoint the
NomCom members.  I will put aside the issue of an at large for the moment,
to explore a few other issues concerning organizations that might elect
members to the NomCom.

In terms of the organizations that might choose the NomCom members, I would
pick organizations that represented the interests of end users.  (avoid
groups controlled by registar/registries)   If a sufficiently diverse number
of groups each could put a few members on the NomCom, then the ability of
anyone to control the process would be less, and that would be good.  If it
is going to be an elitist system, it could at least be one that is
relatively independent.

I think you have to address the IP issue directly, since some will ask that
the board be filled up with persons who only care about copyright (and
neighboring sui generis rights), trademarks or maybe even patent owners.
My opinon on this is that ICANN has gotten into a lot of trouble trying to
cater to this community, and it would be best to say that ICANN will enforce
the current UDRP and whois policies, and if the IP owners want more, they
should petition real governments, and the NomCom should focus instead on
groups that have some good technical skills, or groups that truly represent
end users.

If the NomCom allowed the IETF, ISOC, Consumers International, GILC some
International academic computing organization, the International Chamber of
Commerce, and a group of UN agencies, I would have ITU, UNDP and UNTAD, and
asked each to provide 5 to 10 private citizens to be on a NomCom, that would
be pretty decent, IMO.

Some have suggested that the NomCom qualify a pool of candidates (anyone
getting sufficient support among the members), and the "election" be made
through a random draw (like jury).

If you did all of this, and had a legally limiting (short leash)
terms-of-reference (put in the part about not getting into content, for
example) with someone (GAC, ITU, ?), you might have a lot of support.   This
would seem to address the interest in the BOD of avoiding capture by any
particular group, and the concerns of the grass roots that ICANN  could
become a private unelected big brother.

Just a quick thought.

Jamie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alejandro Pisanty - DGSCA y FQ, UNAM" <apisan at servidor.unam.mx>
To: "James Love" <james.love at cptech.org>
Cc: "NCDNHC list" <discuss at icann-ncc.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:22 PM
Subject: nomcom

: James,
:
: I take seriously your question on the Nominating Committee proposal. But I
: have to answer your question with a question, because that is the status
: as you surely noticed when reading the E&R Committee paper: assuming that
: there will be a NomCom, what do you think its size should be? how should
: it be composed? what can be done to define the desirable profiles of its
: members, their origin, their diversity, and their responsiveness to the
: needs of the broadest set of communities possible, ie openness?
:
: Please note the assumption. It won't be too useful, in reply to this
: question, to challenge the NomCom concept, etc., notwithstanding a wide
: range of valid concerns. The question has deliberately been left open.
: There have been a number of proposals to answer it, most of them published
: in the public forum, and we are awaiting further input which will be most
: valued.
:
: Yours,
:
: Alejandro Pisanty
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: On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, James Love wrote:
:
: > Jefsey is right.  The NomCom *is* the membership, for all practical
: > purposes.  So, Alejandro, Vint, Joe Sims and others should provide some
: > detail on this detail.   Who will be on the NomCom?  How many people
will be
: > on the NomCom?  Who appoints people to be on the NomCom?  Does the BOD
: > appoint the members of the NomCom?    Does the NomCom apoint its own
: > members?   Do the SO's appoint the NomCom members?  Do domain holders
vote
: > to put people on the NomCom?   .......My guess, the BOD would prefer to
: > control who is on the NomCom.
: >
: > Interesting  note also is that a bare majority on the NomCom is a
: > supermajority on the board, because the board itself appoints several
board
: > members.
: >
: > Jamie
: >
: >
: > ----- Original Message -----
: > From: "J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey at club-internet.fr>
: > To: <discuss at icann-ncc.org>
: > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:08 AM
: > Subject: Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] Trashing Our Founding Principles
: >
: >
: > : On 17:56 03/06/02, DannyYounger at cs.com said:
: > : >a true membership organization with the membership electing their own
: > : >leadership and Board.
: > :
: > : Dear Danny,
: > : the point is who would be the members? In the Reform Committee Plan
there
: > : is a Membership: it is the NomComgress.
: > :
: > : You will not change something which has been agreed and decided and
that
: > : everyone will support including you very soon (as long as Joe
resigned,
: > : McLougling went awayand Stuart Lynn removed his claim on the root
server
: > : system and ICANN on IANA).
: > :
: > : What is open is the IANA assignement and the NomComgress designation.
What
: > : you want is a representative NomComgress. I would advise 1000+
membres:
: > one
: > : GAC, one ccTLD, one @large per country plus representatives from ISOC,
: > : Consumers, Civil Right. They want to avoid capture and costs, this
does
: > not
: > : mean 20 people only in the committee. Again the proper test which was
: > : proposed: could Karl and Andy as well as Nii and Katho be elected with
: > that
: > : system?
: > :
: > : jfc
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
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