[ncdnhc-discuss] clarification (sort of) on ICANNatlarge.com and other ICANN "at-large" things

[J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin]

Bravo, Todd. You are IMHO on the good track. The ICANN's difficulty is the 
transition from the ".arpa" culture to the international/multinational 
culture. We all share difficulties in that transition because some matters 
are local and others are netwide and multinationality is something new to 
individuals.

Some also - as in the US case - have more impacts on the networl. But this 
is probably a temporary thing: coming to normal ways - such as a 
considering the local Internet communities - can only help the 
normalization of the whole ICANN.  But we should not in the process lose 
the multinational experience,  and should work out good relations among 
associations and real cross association specialized groups.

The NCC certainly could be a good spot to try that, capitalizing on the 
existing ties and experience? We need local seeds, but wa are so few. 
Grandiose visions such the IDNO shown they are complex to develop. As you 
know we plan to initiate a project in France along the same idea this 
falls, having been late before the vacations. US and France are the two 
most representated countries in the DNSO. Why not to try to help each other 
creating something concrete. Outreach is a real pain, with a (s)low 
response. Sharing experience and results might help. I suppose Germany - 
large number too - Australia and NZ, very active - could also have their 
own effort.

The @large will provide us a good number of new interested and interesting 
people. But the NCC is the place for their association.
jfc






On 23:19 18/07/02, todd glassey said:

>Personally from all the noise on this list I am beginning to think that a
>smaller US-Only Domain Owner/Operator's Association is in order. Its intent
>would be to protect the rights and capabilities of US Domain Owners as a
>whole. It would present to IDNO/ICANN and to the US Congress as
>representative of the voting American Citizens that own operate or
>administer domains and their interests.
>
>Anyone else have any commentary on that?
>
>Todd
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "James Love" <james.love at cptech.org>
>To: "Alexander Svensson" <svensson at icannchannel.de>
>Cc: "NCDNHC Discussion" <discuss at icann-ncc.org>
>Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 7:14 AM
>Subject: Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] clarification (sort of) on ICANNatlarge.com
>and other ICANN "at-large" things
>
>
> > Alexander Svensson wrote:
> > > You are (mis)portraying ICANNatlarge.com and the ALOC as two
> > > competing entities. In fact, ICANNatlarge.com is represented
> > > /on/ the ALOC. But I'm not trying to defend what the ALOC does
> > > or doesn't do: The point is that I believe it would be a bad
> > > idea if user organizations started to fight against each other
> > > to become the Single Authoritative Voice of the Users. I
> > > believe we need an interface between a multitude of user
> > > organizations and ICANN. And someone has to reach out to
> > > user organizations worldwide (which is what Denise Michel is
> > > doing). Of course, that interface must be composed of and
> > > elected by user organizations in the end.
> >
> >     I guess this is something that people will disagree about.  I don't
> > think it is unimportant that the Denise/Esther effort has hijacked the
>term
> > "at-large" and turned it on its head to bless a decidedly undemocratic
> > effort.     Maybe some others feel differently.   By the way, how does the
> > Esther/Denise effort get its own legitimacy?  And has the at-large
> > organizing committee have any proceedures, ways of electing leaders or any
> > real role other than to make ICANN look like it has a real voice for
>users?
> >
> >    Jamie
> >
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> > James Love, Consumer Project on Technology
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