[ncdnhc-discuss] INVOICES.

Wed Jan 30 04:53:09 CET 2002

Michael,

what we do about this is simply described: "work, not fret". Move on to
substance.

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Gendron, Michael (MIS) wrote:

> So what do we do about this? It really disenfranchises those without high
> bandwidth connections.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:42 PM
> To: Gendron, Michael (MIS)
> Cc: discuss at icann-ncc.org; icann board address; Don Evans; Nancy J.
> Victory; Karen Rose
> Subject: Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] INVOICES.
>
>
> Michael and all,
>
>   The ICANN BoD and staff have been told, requested, and suggested
> time and time again to use formats for documents that are broadly used,
> such as HTML or .TXT.  Yet constantly they refuse or as you say, are
> insensitive and continue to display that attitude such as this situation
> again demonstrates.
>
> Gendron, Michael (MIS) wrote:
>
> > There should be a policy in place. I am continually telling my students
> that
> > Americans are spoiled - we get cheap broadband access.  I can understand
> my
> > students not being aware, but it concerns me that an organization such as
> > ICANN is insensitive to these issues.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > Michael Gendron. Ph.D.
> > Associate Professor
> > School of Business
> > CCSU
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From:   Barbara Simons [mailto:simons at acm.org]
> > Sent:   Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:08 AM
> > To:     Norbert Klein
> > Cc:     discuss at icann-ncc.org
> > Subject:        Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] INVOICES.
> >
> > I agree with Norman that ICANN should not have sent a
> > 3 MB file to anyone, but especially not to people living in
> > countries with flakey phone lines and high dial-up fees.
> >
> > Would it be possible for the NCDNHC to make an official
> > request of ICANN that it establish a policy to guarantee that
> > this mistake will not be repeated.  As I said in an earlier note,
> > the person making the mailing did not realize what he had done
> > until I complained.  But there should be some policy in place
> > that prohibits mass mailings of huge files from ICANN headquarters
> > unless there is some extraordinary reason for doing so.
> > And at a minimum the person making the mailings should realize
> > what he or she is doing.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Barbara
> >
> > Norbert Klein wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for bringing some more light into the mystery.
> > >
> > > We talk a lot in ICANN etc. about the fact that there are people in this
> > world
> > > who do not have broadband access, and some of them (especially in
> > countries
> > > where the Internet is in the early stages of development) have to pay
> high
> > > dial-up fees. A recent ITU report said that Cambodia has the highest
> > > communication fees in the region.
> > >
> > > And then ICANN sends out a 3 MB file for billing - this should never be
> > done
> > > again, if it really happened.
> > >
> > > For whatever reason, I did not get it.
> > >
> > > Now I went to see what is on
> > > http://www.ncdnhc.org/docs/membership-fee/2001-list.html
> > >
> > > Open Forum of Cambodia $25 paid (in Marina del Rey) and a difference of
> > $25
> > > against the invoice (which I never got). I paid $25 assuming that this
> was
> > the
> > > amount required from the Open Forum of Cambodia, a very small
> > organization.
> > >
> > > I never even got a receipt for the $25 actually in cash - but I am now
> > happy to
> > > see that they were booked.
> > >
> > > Something is VERY WRONG in the way this matter is handled (I say so
> > without
> > > blaming anybody specifically - except for sending 3 MB files) - if we
> are
> > on
> > > the one hand faced with the question of losing our voting rights because
> > NCDNHC
> > > is not paying, and on the other we have people clamoring to get billed
> and
> > to
> > > get information where and how to send money.
> > >
> > > Any comments or suggestions?
> > >
> > > Norbert Klein
> > > Open Forum of Cambodia
> > > Phnom Penh/Cambodia
> >
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