[ncdnhc-discuss] INVOICES.

[Milton Mueller]

You're right, the process is not organized well, but that is
because it is the first time we are doing it. We put off the
day of reckoning way too long, and just now we are getting
our act together. 

Let's all just be patient and correct mistakes going forward.
The important thing is to complete the transition to a 
membership dues organization and to get in place good
procedures that successive Adcoms continue to follow
and build upon.


>>> Norbert Klein <norbert at forum.org.kh> 01/22/02 11:56PM >>>
Thanks for bringing some more light into the mystery.

We talk a lot in ICANN etc. about the fact that there are people in this world
who do not have broadband access, and some of them (especially in countries
where the Internet is in the early stages of development) have to pay high
dial-up fees. A recent ITU report said that Cambodia has the highest
communication fees in the region.

And then ICANN sends out a 3 MB file for billing - this should never be done
again, if it really happened.

For whatever reason, I did not get it.

Now I went to see what is on
http://www.ncdnhc.org/docs/membership-fee/2001-list.html 

Open Forum of Cambodia $25 paid (in Marina del Rey) and a difference of $25
against the invoice (which I never got). I paid $25 assuming that this was the
amount required from the Open Forum of Cambodia, a very small organization.

I never even got a receipt for the $25 actually in cash - but I am now happy to
see that they were booked.

Something is VERY WRONG in the way this matter is handled (I say so without
blaming anybody specifically - except for sending 3 MB files) - if we are on
the one hand faced with the question of losing our voting rights because NCDNHC
is not paying, and on the other we have people clamoring to get billed and to
get information where and how to send money.

Any comments or suggestions?

Norbert Klein
Open Forum of Cambodia
Phnom Penh/Cambodia

==

Marc Schneiders wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, at 10:13 [=GMT-0800], Kent Crispin wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 10:22:59AM -0300, Raul Echeberria wrote:
> > > At 21:35 20/01/02 +0100, Marc Schneiders wrote:
> > > >On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, at 20:56 [=GMT+0100], Dany Vandromme wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You will find an update of the fee collection at:
> > > > > http://www.ncdnhc.org/docs/membership-fee/2001-list.html 
> > > >
> > > >I would very much like to pay too. But despite 6 emails, I still have
> > > >neither received an invoice, nor the URL where I can pay by credit
> > > >card. Given the small number of those who are listed as having paid, I
> > > >would not be surprised if the same is true for other organizations.
> > >
> > > I didn't received the invoice either.
> >
> > The invoices were sent by email, from Mike Haynes <haynes at icann.org>
> > It's possible that people might have missed messages coming from "Mike
> > Haynes", since they wouldn't know who that was.  Also, the invoice was
> > an enormous (3M) pdf file...
>
> Thank you that explains it. The one to me was refused then. I tell
> sendmail that we want only 200K, which is already too much. I guess many
> ISPs have similar (if higher) limits. In any case, sendmail then generates
> a message to sender telling the file is too big. So Mike could have taken
> action...
>
> --
> Marc at Schneiders.ORG 
>
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