[ncdnhc-discuss] Election results! NOT TRUSTED

Erick Iriarte faia at amauta.rcp.net.pe
Thu Feb 28 00:29:07 CET 2002


Hi !

I accept the runoff voting process.
I hope Dany accept too.

Erick Iriarte


At 12:49 p.m. 2/28/2002 +0900, Chun Eung Hwi wrote:
>Dear Adam Peake,
>
>Thank you for your constructive proposal!
>If there is no objection and the present voting officers - Milton Mueller
>and YJ Park acknowledge it, I will volunteer the runoff voting process.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Chun Eung Hwi
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>
>On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Adam Peake wrote:
>
> > Dany, it seems Pablo Allietti should not have been excluded from the
> > voting list. Instituto Nacional de Investigacion Agropecuaria has
> > been a member since February 4, 2000 and he has been their
> > representative for as long as I remember (i.e. since I maintained the
> > member list, some time ago.)
> >
> > A runoff would, I think, be fairest way to resolve this, unless, of
> > course, either you or Erick wish to withdraw.
> >
> > Proposal:
> >
> > Only those who cast votes in the first stage of the election will be
> > eligible to vote.  (Those of us who did not vote last week, or
> > whenever it was, do not get to vote in the runoff.)
> >
> > Dany and Erick are given 3 days (from some date set by the Adcom) to
> > produce a 500 word (maximum) statement.
> >
> > These statements sent to voters with the ballot, straight up and
> > down, Erick or Dany.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >Milton Mueller wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  Here are the results of the NCDNH Constituency vote.
> > >>  A complete, statistical report will be sent to the
> > >>  constituency by the election operator (Elisabeth
> > >>  Porteneuve) tomorrow (Feb. 27).
> > >>
> > >>  1. All resolutions were ratified by substantial margins
> > >>
> > >>  2. New Adcom:
> > >>     Eung Hwi CHUN, AP
> > >>     Dany Vandromme, EU
> > >>     Harold Feld, NA
> > >>     Thierry Amoussoubgo, AF
> > >>     Erick Iriarte, LAC
> > >>
> > >>  3. New Names Council members:
> > >>     Eung Hwi CHUN, AP - 18 votes
> > >>     Harold Feld, NA  - 10 votes
> > >>
> > >>     Tie:
> > >  >    Erick Iriarte, LAC - 5 votes
> > >>     (note: includes INIA vote)
> > >>     Dany Vandromme, EU - 5 votes
> > >>
> > >>  4. We have two options:
> > >>     a. One of the two tied candidates can withdraw, if
> > >>        they wish to concede to the other. Of course,
> > >>        both candidates have every right to remain if
> > >>        they choose.
> > >>     b. We can hold a runoff election between these two
> > >>        candidates.
> > >>
> > >>     So, Dany, Erick, please indicate your intention
> > >>  and if necessary we will proceed with a direct runoff
> > >>  between Dany Vandromme and Erick Iriarte. We need to
> > >>  hear from you by Friday.
> > >>
> > >-
> > >Milton and others:
> > >
> > >This election has been a complet failure.
> > >It is the first time in my life I see a vote, with the voting list not
> > >closed before the start of the vote, the closing date not respected, and
> > >the voting officers including votes not supported by a ballot. The vote
> > >results should have been posted as planned on Feb 23th. They were not,
> > >because the voting rules were not fully understood by the voting
> > >officers, nor by voters.
> > >Membership list were supposed closed from Friday 8th. From that, the
> > >draft voting list was produced on thursday, but none of the voting
> > >officer did check and close it prior the vote start.
> > >
> > >A tie vote, which is not part of the established voting rules, with an
> > >undefined voting list would not produce the same result for the last NC
> > >rep, since emanating from a different distribution of voters, with
> > >different rationale for voting.
> > >
> > >The vote are so clear to everyone that we see now members, voting for
> > >the tie, before that the vote has been organized and opened:
> > >======================================================================= 
> ===============
> > >Subject: [ncdnhc-adcom] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] Re: [Fwd: Fwd: Ballot
> > >Not received]
> > >Date:    Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:30:26 -0500
> > >From:    Pablo Allietti <pabloa at inia.org.uy>
> > >Organization:  INIA La Estanzuela
> > >To:      YJ Park <yjpark at myepark.com>
> > >CC:      Elisabeth Porteneuve <Elisabeth.Porteneuve at cetp.ipsl.fr>,
> > >          vany_martinez at yahoo.com, vany at sdnp.org.pa,
> > >          Milton Mueller <mueller at syracuse.edu>, raul at inia.org.uy,
> > >          adcom at icann-ncc.org
> > >References: 1 , 2
> > >
> > >YJ Park wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > >I Vote for Erick Iriarte.
> > >Thnk you for your kind attention.
> > >Pablo Allietti
> > >
> > >>  Pabloa,
> > >>
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> > >
> > >I do not want to participate to this system. The constituency is going
> > >nowhere with such a lack of formalism and rules, except to be completely
> > >disfranchised within the DNSO and the ICANN.
> > >Once more, the adcom has proved to be unable to manage the constituency.
> > >As adcom member, I tried to keep the vote on the right track at the
> > >begining, to fix a first failure of the voting officers before the
> > >start. As candidate, I was not in a position to do anything else, except
> > >observing what was going on. Too much for me!
> > >
> > >I have no trust anymore in this vote process and I am not going to
> > >support it by participating to the second round, and I will not
> > >participate to this non-trusted adcom (not because of candidates, but
> > >because the election process).
> > >
> > >I let Erik Iriarte to appreciate the situation for himself.
> > >
> > >Dany
> > >
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