[ncdnhc-discuss] Membership Status of Silicon Valley Public Access Link

Jefsey Morfin jefsey at wanadoo.fr
Wed Oct 31 12:03:57 CET 2001


Dear Dave,
considering this position of yours - I find by the way reasonable and well 
articulated - I hope that you will join Kent Crispin - who is also the 
delegate of Songbird at the BC while I am the one of Utel - to support the 
Membership without limitation of the Frax non-profit catholic association?



Since you call for a doctrine, I think the current example of the BC might 
help. At the elections there Grant Forsyth and Marilyn Cade are elected. 
Bruce James objects that they are in the same trade and that Grant having 
been elected first, Marilyn must step aside. Marilyn argument is that the 
part of AT&T she works for is dealing with Internet and e-commerce, so she 
is not a Telco. And Grant says the his company CLEAR does offer Internet 
and e-commerce but that it is basically a Telco.

Bruce's position is that the Members are CLEAR and ATT. And that Marilyn 
and Grant belongs to two companies being first a Telco and additional an 
Internet service.

So if the BC says that Marilyn Cade is elected, it means that the people 
counts, not the structures. Then Dave you must go, Kent must be replaced as 
representing is yacht club and I cannot represent the Frax I chair. If 
Bruce is right, the Frax is a Member of the NCDNHC, you stay and Ken stay 
the Member being his yacht club.

IMHO  Bruce is right..





On 00:14 31/10/01, Dave Crocker said:
>At 12:41 PM 10/30/2001 -0500, Milton Mueller wrote:
>>Currently your representative in NCDNHC is Mr. David Crocker, an emeritus 
>>Board member of SVPA. In order to avoid a conflict of interest, we would
>>request that your organization appoint a new representative.
>
>
>Milton,
>
>A slightly interesting retaliatory effort, on your part.  Transparent, of 
>course, but then subtlety and carefulness have not been your hallmark.
>
>A few items:
>
>1.      Copying the entire NCDNHC is the definitive demonstration that you 
>are more interested in playing to an audience than dealing with any real 
>problems.
>
>2.      Had you bothered to do a modicum of research, you would have found 
>out that I  consult Neustar on technology, not on policy, and I have no 
>access to their business plans.  For example, see 
><http://www.icannfacts.org/about.html>.
>
>3.      My relationship with Neustar has been public knowledge since its 
>start and is documented on my web page.
>
>
>Therefore:
>
>1.      Please provide a citation to the authoritative constituency 
>document that substantiates your claim of policies and procedures 
>concerning a conflict of interest.  There is nothing in the constituency's 
>temporary charter that provides such authority.
>
>2.      Please provide documentation that you are representing an 
>authorized decision from the constituency, rather than on your own, 
>personal initiative.
>
>You raise a number of issues concerning conflicts of interest, such as 
>your own involvement in dispute resolution, or anyone else's acquisition 
>of funds from any company that makes money from the Internet.  (I hope 
>that you and everyone else appreciates the difficulty of finding people 
>who do not benefit financially from their Internet work.)
>
>I would be glad to see this group develop consistent rules concerning the 
>matter, but would suggest that it be done carefully.  Of course, that 
>means you must recuse yourself from involvement, Milton, given your 
>complete lack of balance in dealing with me (or anyone else who has the 
>gall to disagree with you) and your utter disregard for fair process.
>
>As for the rest of the constituency, it will be interesting to see whether 
>Milton's excesses ever go too far to motivate the constituency to replace 
>this wayward soul with one that is less destructive.
>
>d/
>
>ps.     Milton, have you noticed that the constituency still does not have 
>a formal charter? One would have thought that fixing that deficiency was 
>part of the Adcom job, although it is not nearly as self-serving as 
>creating public controversy.  Any chance you will considering doing your 
>actual job?
>
>
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